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The ultimate Israel - Palestine Thread (it's all here) (pg. 5)
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| xKaoSx |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
I will always mention your age.. you are a 34 year old moron
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PRESENT SITUATION...DOES THAT GET THROUGH YOUR HEAD?????
And the good ol days were in reference to the absence of mindless people on this forum. However, PRESENTLY, they are infesting this section.
If you have nothing constructive to say abou the CURRENT situation in the Middle east.. then piss off
P.S Im actually 13 |
You are an angry little boy arn't you now?
I'm not even 34 you math major. Maybe you should pay attention in school a little more and work on bettering yourself then worrying about whats going on that other continent.
Therapy might be considered an option too.
Maybe you actually should go over there yourself and do something about it. Oh- Dont want to get your hands dirty over there?
I will buy your damn ticket to go over there.
I am sure you could do much better fixing things over there in person.
You might want to really consider the dangers though- I would really hate to hear about your death in a civilian bombing or something.
:rolleyes:
Let me know when a good travel time for you is and I will arrange it. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by xKaoSx
You are an angry little boy arn't you now?
I'm not even 34 you math major. Maybe you should pay attention in school a little more and work on bettering yourself then worrying about whats going on that other continent.
Therapy might be considered an option too.
Maybe you actually should go over there yourself and do something about it. Oh- Dont want to get your hands dirty over there?
I will buy your damn ticket to go over there.
I am sure you could do much better fixing things over there in person.
You might want to really consider the dangers though- I would really hate to hear about your death in a civilian bombing or something.
:rolleyes:
Let me know when a good travel time for you is and I will arrange it. |
A tear has rolled down my cheek
Are you satisfied????? Get lost daddy |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Reverend_Trance
Since Cyrus is stressing the current situation,I will try to be brief. the Palestinians HAD a NATION in 1948 under U.N. Partition Plan 181 which went into effect Nov. 29, 1947. (Personaly I cant find a map of this carved up Isreali and Palestinian nation, if some one could find and post) Due to their hatred or dislike of the Jewish state. The Palestian state along with the rest of the Arab world invaded Isreal. Isreal repelled the invasion and took some of the Palestian state, while Jordan took the West Bank and Egypt took the Gaza Strip. Isreal took the Gaza strip and the West Bank in the 1967 war. |
Palestine was a province of the ottoman empire...i dont recall it being recognized by the international community as a federal nation.
There were plans to create a nation during the partition. ZIonists have since then tried to stop it until recently
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TO THE CURRENT SITUATION:
Isreal is hunting down Palestinian terrorists who are killing Isreali civilians. They are exercising their right of self-preservation. In the Iraq war, civilians were killed. Collateral damage happens. To get a select few rulers people areound then will be killed. To cut off the head of some of these terrorists group, civilians we be killed. ACCEPT DEATH IT IS A FACT OF LIFE.
Flame on......
I have to leave for a bit but I shall return. |
How is this a defense???? Shooting a crowd of people...demolishing homes??? You still didnt expalin this to me
I can sit here and tell you that terrorists are self defending their people! But as everyone knows that is lame and so is your "they have every right to defend themselves" argument you are posting.
The "collateral" damage is NOT SUPPOSED to happen... They are not supposed to be in the occupied territories. Are Israeli's bombed to pieces "collateral" too.. seeing as you see this as a "war"
This zionist rhetoric is so easy to refute its getting boring now |
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| xKaoSx |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
A tear has rolled down my cheek
Are you satisfied????? Get lost daddy |
Just like I thought.
Chicken -
All talk no action-
Im giving you this perfect opportunity to make a difference over there. You seem to have all the answers and great ideas. It's a shame they will not have your services.
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| Reverend_Trance |
EDIT: xXKaosXx and Cyrus King, quit bitching and stay on topic or a new thread will be created for you two. Thanks
So what is your point?
The Isrealis are bad because they are trying to defend themselves.
The Palestinians are good because they blow up people to make a political statement.
Please refresh my memory on the question?
The Isrealis are cruel to the Palestinians through their plan attcks on selected targets with minimal civilian death while the Palestinians kill people at random. Is that not a double standard?
Why are the Palestians fighting and not becoming apart of the rest of the Arab world? You are correct that there was no Palestinian nation but there was a Jewish one, thousands of year ago. |
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| Reverend_Trance |
On second thought, the heart of the matter is not the Isrealis but the "Palestinians." This fictional group of people is fighting for something that does not exist. You yourself Cyrus admitted that Palestine was just a political constriction by the Byzantines and the Ottomans. So what is the point of fighting?
Even though you assume that religion is hogwash, lets deem it fact for discussion. Abraham had two sons, Ishmeal and Isaac. God promised to bless both children and their offspring. To look at genology and tribal lines, the Arab naton came from Ishmeal and the Jewish nation from Isaac. Both want to be a chosen people and race claimed through Abraham. The Isrealis follow Judaism and the Arabs follow Islam. Both religions are linked to the God of Abraham and his decentents. It is about religion and not a place. There are two chose race and in the end only one will remain which will be Judaism according to the book of Revelation in the bible.
For me, religion is my future life and career as the name hints. |
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| TRANCEEEE |
| quote: | Originally posted by Reverend_Trance
So what is your point?
The Isrealis are bad because they are trying to defend themselves.
The Palestinians are good because they blow up people to make a political statement. |
are u like 11 years old ... bad n good ?????????
why don;t you watch the news and read the daily papers before you post crap like that! you obviously don't know anything .. |
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| Reverend_Trance |
| quote: | Originally posted by TRANCEEEE
are u like 11 years old ... bad n good ?????????
why don;t you watch the news and read the daily papers before you post crap like that! you obviously don't know anything .. |
Then educate me. Explain it to me besides calling me names. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Reverend_Trance
TO THE CURRENT SITUATION:
Isreal is hunting down Palestinian terrorists who are killing Isreali civilians. They are exercising their right of self-preservation. In the Iraq war, civilians were killed. Collateral damage happens. To get a select few rulers people areound then will be killed. To cut off the head of some of these terrorists group, civilians we be killed. ACCEPT DEATH IT IS A FACT OF LIFE.
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suicide bombing is palastinians way of fighting back so accept it.you dont like it give them a real army. |
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| mps242 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Palestine was a province of the ottoman empire...i dont recall it being recognized by the international community as a federal nation.
There were plans to create a nation during the partition. ZIonists have since then tried to stop it until recently |
LMFAO!!!! You have absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING OF HISTORY. It wasn't Zionists you dimwit, IT WAS EGYPT AND JORDAN!!!! Israel wasn't occupying palestinian territories until '67... why was there no state before then? BECAUSE EGYPT AND JORDAN CLAIMED THE LAND!!! The idea of a separate palestinian state was KILLED by *ARABS* until the *ISRAELIS* put it on the table fairly recently...
No wonder you're so confused about this whole situation...
| quote: | | I can sit here and tell you that terrorists are self defending their people! But as everyone knows that is lame and so is your "they have every right to defend themselves" argument you are posting. |
Well, that and you know that your arguments is totally BS... pretty tough to argue that killing 4 children under 12 and an 8 month pregnant woman are agressors...
| quote: | | The "collateral" damage is NOT SUPPOSED to happen... They are not supposed to be in the occupied territories. Are Israeli's bombed to pieces "collateral" too.. seeing as you see this as a "war" |
It's all about who the intended target is... If you don't understand that little nugget of information, you probably shouldn't be commenting on issues of war and peace... |
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| BadBadNeil |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
suicide bombing is palastinians way of fighting back so accept it.you dont like it give them a real army. |
There are a lot of oppressed people in the world other than the palestinians and you don't see them blowing up buses and killing innocent women and children on a regular basis. If they didn't fight back with violence then the Israelis would be FORCED to give back the land because they wouldn't have excuses like "we are defending ourselves" like they do now. Also the US wouldn't be able to side with them.
As for the photos I posted. Yes they may be in the past but they are relevant because the pictures posted in the first page have gotten so generic that they can be applied to any point in time of the conflict just like the pictures I posted. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by BadBadNeil
There are a lot of oppressed people in the world other than the palestinians and you don't see them blowing up buses and killing innocent women and children on a regular basis. |
I say it again give the Palestinians a proper army to fight back and there will be no more suicide bombings.I really dont get why is it that whenever Isreal attacks Palestinians they call it war of terrorism but when Palestinians strike back it is terrorism?:whip:
| quote: | | If they didn't fight back with violence then the Israelis would be FORCED to give back the land because they wouldn't have excuses like "we are defending ourselves" like they do now. Also the US wouldn't be able to side with them. |
So basically you saying they should just sit and let Isreal demolish their houses?There has been times were Palestinians didnt attack for weeks then Isreal strikes because they wanted to kill some terrorist.So I dont think your solution will help.Also do you really think Isreal will listen to any other country about anything?They dont care about any internationl laws or even U.N.??Only America,their #1 kiss ass in world tells them what to do. |
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