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The ultimate Israel - Palestine Thread (it's all here) (pg. 77)
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by electronicmaji2
you dont deserve the time of day in the international community all you are are cold blooded killers you dont matter if theyre women or children as long as there a jew |
Bull!!
As if Isreal is accepted in the international community:rolleyes:
p.s. stop watching that fox news bull. |
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| Palestinian |
| quote: | Originally posted by electronicmaji2
yes accidents ....doesnt matter even if they arent the orders are to try not to kill innocents and try to only kill terrorists
palestineans are ordered to specifically kill innocents
but nice attempt to justify your killing of innocents by pointing at other people killing innocents even thought they dont do it on purpose and take the amount of people they kill and try to constrew it so that if theyk ill so many it must be on purpose right
your a bit like abortionists huh ?
you have no proof that restriction is done just your biased ideals
yes occupation is on purpose because you are savages understand it
you are not civilized you kill people just because they dont agree with you
you dont deserve the time of day in the international community all you are are cold blooded killers you dont matter if theyre women or children as long as there a jew |
I guess Brian Avery being shot in the face is an accident. Or Tom Hurndale's death because he tried to take children off the street is an accident. How about the fact that most of those children killed are hit in the head or chest. It's no accident when you get a head shot.
At least you know that occupation is done on purpose, and occupation is terrorism, so Israel practices terrorism on purpose. Calling us savages is extremely racist to the core. Punishing 3.5 million people is called collective punishment and is illegal under International Law, so Israel is a criminal state, a terrorist state, and a racist, oppressive, Apartheid state. You cannot have peace and occupation at the same time. Maybe one day you will experience what it feels like to have your house confiscated, to have a soldier collect your phone bill at midnight, to have your wife wait in a lineup to be checked while she's giving birth, to have bulldozers plow your farm or orchard up and uproot your trees, to have your children's school closed down and used as a military barracks, or your cousin shot to death because he was demonstrating peacefully outside, and the rest of your cousins rotting in jail because they were part of political movements and nothing more. Before then, go educate yourself and while you're at it, take some anti-oppression classes. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Palestinian
so Israel is a criminal state, a terrorist state, and a racist zionist state. When you are ready to end occupation, you will see peace. Before that, go yourself. |
WERD |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Goashem
thanks hardcore trancer, you just gave me another pro-israeli arguement: the IDF is dealing with bloodthirsty animals. im glad you decided to switch sides its gonna much easier to debate now. |
I never said Iam on the Isreali side now did I?:) |
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| DjChook |
Palestinian, for starters, Sitting in Toronto and claming rights is just as pathetic as saying there should be a milition of arabs (Patach or whatever).
Who the hell do you think you, and all your other so called "fighters" fight about ?
Most of the fight is religous, right ? So let's open up the bibles shell we ? and see...
First, god created the jews. Which were his prefered.
Then I don't really care how or with what cause, came Jesus and the Chrisitians started, and Muhamad started the Islam.
Now, If you belive in that story (you must have, the arabs don't deny it), You should know that the land of Israel, was promissed to our fathers. Therfure, we have the right to live here.
Furthermore, After world war II, When the whole area was full of jews, only then people who called themselves "Palastiniens" woke up from there wholes and primitive lifes, and started to seek for a meaning to their pathetic lifes... And i'm serious.
No Arab country, not even one! cared about them.. They all wanted to get rid of them just as much we do.
The problem is that if they do it, it's okay, but when we do it, It's "Occupation" or whatever.. What the ?!
We wanted to end this "fight" long ago, but the ed up palestinies just don't get it.. They don't even know what they want.
Look at the latest events,
Israel, lead by Ariel Sharon, is finally willing to give up all the settelmets in the areas of Palestine,
And all is going well... Then come a stupid guy who doesn't care about pretty much anything besides his ugly virgins up in so-called-heaven, and kills inicent civilians.
Do you really think that "fighting" / "fare-fight"?
If you want a fight, assmble an army, declare yourself to the UN,
and sit in one of Israel borders... and try,
But this current fight is ed up and can't lead to anything which is good for both sides... kind of a LOSE-LOSE situation...
Israel wants to disconnect from the Palestinies, but if they keep on entering our borders, they basically aren't disconnecting from us. |
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| Palestinian |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjChook
Palestinian, for starters, Sitting in Toronto and claming rights is just as pathetic as saying there should be a milition of arabs (Patach or whatever).
Who the hell do you think you, and all your other so called "fighters" fight about ?
Most of the fight is religous, right ? So let's open up the bibles shell we ? and see...
First, god created the jews. Which were his prefered.
Then I don't really care how or with what cause, came Jesus and the Chrisitians started, and Muhamad started the Islam.
Now, If you belive in that story (you must have, the arabs don't deny it), You should know that the land of Israel, was promissed to our fathers. Therfure, we have the right to live here.
Furthermore, After world war II, When the whole area was full of jews, only then people who called themselves "Palastiniens" woke up from there wholes and primitive lifes, and started to seek for a meaning to their pathetic lifes... And i'm serious.
No Arab country, not even one! cared about them.. They all wanted to get rid of them just as much we do.
The problem is that if they do it, it's okay, but when we do it, It's "Occupation" or whatever.. What the ?!
We wanted to end this "fight" long ago, but the ed up palestinies just don't get it.. They don't even know what they want.
Look at the latest events,
Israel, lead by Ariel Sharon, is finally willing to give up all the settelmets in the areas of Palestine,
And all is going well... Then come a stupid guy who doesn't care about pretty much anything besides his ugly virgins up in so-called-heaven, and kills inicent civilians.
Do you really think that "fighting" / "fare-fight"?
If you want a fight, assmble an army, declare yourself to the UN,
and sit in one of Israel borders... and try,
But this current fight is ed up and can't lead to anything which is good for both sides... kind of a LOSE-LOSE situation...
Israel wants to disconnect from the Palestinies, but if they keep on entering our borders, they basically aren't disconnecting from us. |
What's so pathetic about discussing the situation in Toronto? For starters, I haven't been allowed back in Gaza for four years now. We don't have access to an army, so I believe the most effective weapon is external pressure against Israel. You yourself said declare yourself to the UN. Do you know how Apartheid in South Africa ended? By external pressure, many countries pressured the white government to stop Apartheid. Therefore, discussing the situation from Canada is good. The ICJ ruling against the Wall was our first external victory. I hope there will be many more like it and perhaps sanctions in the future.
Israel is certainly not willing to give up all the settlements, only the ones in Gaza, while it expands the ones in the West Bank to get a tighter grip on it and East Jerusalem. You're wrong when you say all is going well. Yes, the guy is ed up to blow himself up, but you should understand that Israel has violated the ceasefire many times before the suicide bombing yesterday.
"only then people who called themselves "Palastiniens" woke up from there wholes and primitive lifes, and started to seek for a meaning to their pathetic lifes... And i'm serious." ---This is disgusting. 'primitive', 'pathetic'. That is sick. We were just fine before European Zionist Jews colonized the land we lived on. You are no different than the Americans when they called the Natives 'savages'. Can't you see that??
What you're wrong about most is that this is a religious fight. This is certainly not a religious fight. It's about land and about human rights. But if you want to talk about religion, I don't believe that the land is given by God to the Jews. Maybe 3000 years ago it was, but not today. But let's not get into religion. You have your religion, and I have mine. I'm not saying that you don't have a right to live there, but I am saying that we have a right to live there too. |
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| electronicmaji2 |
| quote: | | How about the fact that most of those children killed are hit in the head or chest. It's no accident when you get a head shot. |
as far i can see it is not a fact do you have proof or are you just rambling on
even if there was proof do you know the palistineans would take someone who was accidently hit in the body and shoot them in the head just to get people thinking that its not a accident ...its not beyond them
| quote: | | Calling us savages is extremely racist to the core. Punishing 3.5 million people is called collective punishment and is illegal under International Law, so Israel is a criminal state, a terrorist state, and a racist, oppressive, Apartheid state. |
your country does not denounce terrorism does not try to stop it terrorism is evil and not going against it is the same as being a terrorist in the international communities eyes you are savages evil human beings that dont deserve the time of day....you know what is else is racist? genocide like what your trying to do to the israeli people jews and christians...
| quote: | | You cannot have peace and occupation at the same time. Maybe one day you will experience what it feels like to have your house confiscated, to have a soldier collect your phone bill at midnight, to have your wife wait in a lineup to be checked while she's giving birth, to have bulldozers plow your farm or orchard up and uproot your trees, to have your children's school closed down and used as a military barracks, or your cousin shot to death because he was demonstrating peacefully outside, and the rest of your cousins rotting in jail because they were part of political movements and nothing more. Before then, go educate yourself and while you're at it, take some anti-oppression classes. |
I lived in colombia you have no idea what I have experienced...so shut up ..... |
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| Goashem |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I never said Iam on the Isreali side now did I?:) |
no but by laughing at dead israelis and saying "die ing zionist" you basically destroyed any validity of any arguement youll ever make. you proved that IDF are not fighting a resistence but just pure killers. if thats what they're fighting, peace talks just jail em all. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by electronicmaji2
you are savages evil human beings that dont deserve the time of day |
you are a racsist piece of |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
For those of you who in denial of IDF's horrible crimes:
U.S. Peace Activist Brian Avery Returns to Israel Two Years After Being Shot in the Face
there's an interview at the following link:
http://www.democracynow.org/article...5/02/25/1455249
:rolleyes: Israel was only defending itself from terrorists. :rolleyes: |
was this a f*cking accident? |
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| Palestinian |
| quote: | Originally posted by electronicmaji2
as far i can see it is not a fact do you have proof or are you just rambling on |
Look in page 2 of this thread for proof. You simply cannot have this many deaths as accidental. There are numerous cases reported, check your very own Israeli human rights centers and stop living in denial.
| quote: | | even if there was proof do you know the palistineans would take someone who was accidently hit in the body and shoot them in the head just to get people thinking that its not a accident ...its not beyond them |
How would you know that? Were you there? Or are you just plain racist?
| quote: | | your country does not denounce terrorism does not try to stop it terrorism is evil and not going against it is the same as being a terrorist in the international communities eyes you are savages evil human beings that dont deserve the time of day....you know what is else is racist? genocide like what your trying to do to the israeli people jews and christians... |
We don't even have a country yet, we will not fight against ourselves until Israel ends the occupation and its own terrorism that it has never denounced either, not even in words. And we are only "savages evil human beings that don't deserve the time of day" to racists like you. There is no genocide against Jews and Christians. In fact, the Christians in the region are mostly Palestinians who want an end to Israeli occupation.
| quote: | | I lived in colombia you have no idea what I have experienced...so shut up ..... |
And I lived in Gaza, you have no idea what we experience there, nor can you pretend to, so go yourself. |
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