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The ultimate Israel - Palestine Thread (it's all here) (pg. 70)
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| VanFleet |
The reason for the bombing is because the Arabs don't have enough land?
22 countries isn't enough for them. |
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| VanFleet |
The Pallies fear peace more than anything else. They'd rather rape and murder with the Islam's blessing. After raising several generations of murderous psychopaths, the Pallie leaders will say, "This latest attack isn't our fault. We're calling for peace. We can't control the actions of our people and it's not our fault.
Typical Arabs that can never take responsiblity |
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| Palestinian |
| quote: | Originally posted by VanFleet
The Pallies fear peace more than anything else. They'd rather rape and murder with the Islam's blessing. After raising several generations of murderous psychopaths, the Pallie leaders will say, "This latest attack isn't our fault. We're calling for peace. We can't control the actions of our people and it's not our fault.
Typical Arabs that can never take responsiblity |
Typical zionist racism |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Palestinian
Typical zionist racism |
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| FederalBI |
Once again the the pals show that they don't have any intentions to build a peace proccess after a small period of a relaxation they started terorizing israel again. even thogh israel already planned of the taking the settlements out of the territories so the pals will have their own country.
pals just want war that's the way they live. |
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| Scorchio |
I Wasnt trying to contribute intelligence, I was expressing my opinion and I have my facts to base it on:
1. You have a picture of a person holding a weapon in your avatar - terrorist.
2. You have stated more than once that you are an active member in Palestinian hostile Resistance groups
3. You have justified the Palestinian struggle through suicide bombings several times.
4. You have stated that Marwan Barguthy should have been the next Palestinian Chairman even though hes a well known terrorist.
5. You have stated your deep admiration towards Abd El-Aziz Rantisi and Yasin allot of times.
Yes, in my eyes you are a terrorist who tries to cover it with your god given intelligence that was probobly given to you by mistake.
The fact that you know history well and write down long posts does not make you right, you probobly copy-paste it from websites as I've read and seen your texts many times before.
I simply dont buy your act and I'm sick and tired of trying to argue with you, you dont want to contribute to the situation, you want solutions from one side only and blame everything on our side.
Occupation this and Occupation that, as far as youre concerned Palestinians are innocent holy people who just want their freedom.
We also want our freedom alongside with your people, shame you dont understand it.
Ill summarize
Yes you are a terrorist. |
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| Scorchio |
| quote: | Originally posted by Palestinian
Typical zionist racism |
Typical Palestinan ruthless terrorism. |
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| tatgirl |
| quote: | Originally posted by Palestinian
If you're not racist, then don't tell me to focus my "aggression" on something else as if I shouldn't give a about my own people's rights. |
I never said you should. Again, you're filling in the blanks here, and considering the 2 of us have never partaken in any debate on here before, and you won't find any past post from me that is racist against the Palestinians, dont go jumping to your conclusions. I watched many movies that show your side of things, and feel sympathy for the Palestinians. Some of your greater co-horts on here know me in person, and know I am FAR from 'racist', as u accuse.
| quote: | By the way, none of the writing in my first post was copy and paste.I'm pretty well versed in the conflict, thank you very much.
The copy and paste was the second post where I clearly showed that the Israeli violations of the ceasefire came from a website. |
Sure you are well versed at posting your 1-sided argument, which always is based in 'look how horrible Israel is!'. Yet, anyone who is in favor of an Israeli state is pegged as 'Zionist scum'. I am equally impressed how many of you throw the word 'zionist' (= pro-state of Israel) around as an insult. That's the racism there. You CAN NOT deny the tie the Jewish people have to the land, in terms of historical value, no matter how hard you try.
| quote: | | I never said I wanted Israel destroyed. |
that doesn't mean you don't wish it.
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too and within Palestinian communities. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't focus on my own people's rights that are being violated by Israel. Again, stop making it seem that's it's wrong for me to focus on Palestinian rights that are violated by Israel. That is racist in itself. It's like me telling you to stop talking about the victims of suicide bombings because there are Israelis that kill Israelis or because there are other problems within Israeli society that better deserve your attention. Or it's like telling a South African Black during Apartheid that he or she shoudln't talk about their plight against Apartheid because they have their own problems within the black communities. Wow, imagine I told you that. |
Believe me, you are FAR from being hindered on letting the world know about the Palestinian human rights violations. I see you inform the rest of us on a daily basis. Your screen name is Palestinian, your avatar is... whatever, and while you're based in Toronto, I've NEVER seen you post once on any event in the TO forum, it is obvious what your sole purpose on tranceaddict is, and that is to post in the political forum about your favorite topic. Hey, no society is perfect. But you can't move forward, if you don't start solving the root of the problem, and no, its not the occupation of Israel. When a society glorifies suicide bombers (see your avatar), you have a real obstacle there.
| quote: | | A peace movement is good but not nearly aHuman rights are violated everywhere, and yes in all Arab countries s constructive as an activist movement that educates the public about Israel's human rights violations. A peace movement makes it seem as if both sides are equal, as if this is a conflict between two equal countries. No, this is a conflict between an Occupier and an Occupied, and this is what people need to realize if there is ever going to be peace for BOTH Palestinians and Israelis. |
Your wrong- it's not a conflict between 2 countries- it's the entire Arab world against Israel. Would you like me to start listing off cases of how Jews were oppressed in Arab countries, LONG before the state of Israel ever existed? What would that solve? Nothing. But it would prove that Arabs have long been in violation of Jewish rights. Think I could safely travel to a place like Saudi Arabia? I think not.
Please tell me about these awareness groups on the Arab side. I would like to hear more about them, instead of all the finger pointing. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yan
Accidents do happen, you know?
Terrorism is just the tag that the US media will insert. It is a monstrosity, though. When anyone dies from either side, that is. |
When a man is crushed by an israeli tank as he is in his wheel chair or when a little boy is shot directly in the temple as he sits outside his porch eating an apple, i hardly think these things are "accidents".
Do you think its a coincidence that many unamarmed civilians are killed by accident? |
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| Escobar |
History is not something one can change. There is no Israeli or Palestinian version. The best way for you to get an real assessment of the situation is for you to pick up some books and read. If you would like I could direct you towards many of them....check out my post on page 52 of this thread...i summarized all that I learnt about the conflict...only facts there, no opinions.
Facts are facts no matter how you look at them.
Some people deny facts, labeling them fabrications. Some people make up facts...
I like to take things at face value. What we see in the media today is extremely one-sided reporting almost always fovoring the palestinian side. This is also the case with this Forum, which in my opinion should be called "We all hate Israel and the Jews, lets bash them".
I am not aware of any web sites that ca help you see the Israeli perstective nor am I Israeli, so I feel as though I am not capable of accuratly pertraying how they feel.
As someone who has spent time in Israel both in and out of 1967 borders, I can say with honesty that the world is very wrong when it comes to public opinions about Israel.
Just look at facts. Palestinian himself brought down some interesting points relating to a UN resolution, but he, like the rest of the world conviniently leaves out all aspects of it in an effort to destort reality.
I will surely try to find a web site where you can get the israeli side and post it here.
In the meantime, i found a site by Israelis that is open to people who come and post questions...I think if you post questions there you will defenetly get their side of the story, check it out: http://www.isratrade.net/forum
I'll try to find some more... |
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| Escobar |
Four people were killed, over 50 were wounded last night when, Abdullah Badaran, 21, blew up at the packed entrance to the seafront club by the name of 'Stage', located on the city's promenade in Telaviv, Israel.
About 20 to 30 people queued up outside the club on the generally packed Herbert Samuel Boulevard shortly after 11 pm Friday night when the bomber, dressed as a reveler himself, struck.
As he reached the front of the line he detonated a nail-packed device just before being searched by one of the club's guards. The force of the blast ripped cars open like cans, and sprayed the victims' blood onto the club's smashed front fa ade. Shops and windows of nearby buildings were obliterated.
Forensic units scoured the debris and the cars in the neighborhood for additional devices early into the following morning, as Police helicopters thundered overhead in the wake of eyewitness reports that the bomber's accomplice escaped.
Now, can you blame Israel if it responds to this??
This just proves that Palestinians need to wake up and start teaching their children to love and not to hate!!
This happened in the middle of a "cease-fire".
ANIMALS!!! None of the victims were military or "settlers"!!!
Now imagine, you are at the line to get into "Gov" (club in T dot) and some Crasy ing arab blows himself up killing others...
I don't care how you rationalize this...there is no excuse..those people were waiting to go listen to some go ol' trance music...
I hope ISrael's response is Harsh and decissive! :whip: |
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