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The ultimate Israel - Palestine Thread (it's all here) (pg. 74)
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
the best thing that could be done is disolve any state there and hand over control to an international body such as the UN.
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If you knew your history it would show you how absurdly ironic the statement you made above is.
The UN did have control of the entire region of Palestine and no
Jewish or Palestinian state existed under it. It is exactly the UN who has made the reality in the region what it is we know today.:crazy: |
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| Escobar |
This ing animal did this:
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| Glenn-Holmes |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
If you count the incredibly short time the UN was incontrol, then your right, but for a majority of the time it was British forces.
The only reason that Israel found such backing in Europe was because of the incredibly strong anti-semitism in France and the UK. The French were sick of the Zionist movement that had been growing there since before the war and wanted them out, and the UK wanted to pull out of the middle east all together.
Even under British control, the people in Palestine were able to conduct business as they saw fit for themselves.
After the creation of Israel these decisions were put souly in the hands of Jews from Europe and eastern European Soviet countries such as the Ukraine.
It was no longer a multinational state, but had become a Jewish state. |
ou hate jews ain't you?
just say it once and for all us to know that the one writing down is really a racist...
peace is not that hard to make
if you ask me
but when one side wants to get hold of everything thats what happens
palestinians wants us out of here
most of them want it for sure
they didn't have country ever
so n 1948 the decision was to give them half of the country
for the first time palestinians could get hold of a their own piece of land and not just be separated all over the country among many oher people
they could have taken the territoris they have been given and live in peace with israel
but palestinians wanted more
they were much more palestinians han jews so they thought a quick war will destroy the new israeli country and make the hole territory just for themselves
but guess what?
the fighters from the israel;i side fought back and after almost 2 years of war that the palestinians combined with other countries from middle east have started (and don forget it!) israel have won this fight
and yes some of the territories of the palestinians left on the israeli side
what did you want?!?!
that after wishing for our death
starting an unfair fight
after this after the tough win in this war caused many dead peple of israeli side - people who just wanted to live in peace
after all of this you wanted us to come and say
"there you go now take all those territories live on them and when you'll have enough people you could always try to start a war again"
come on palestinians supporters ignore the history
they only take their side of the story
you want the hole story?
palestinians deserve a country
but they need to put in prison all the terrorists from their side
any chance that in a middle of a peace process some maniacs will bomb themselves here is unacceptable
problem is many palestinians just wouldn't settle
they prefer to complain about israel trying to check people cause there are each day 10-20 potential terrorists that are found by israeli army
so when you find these amounts each day
you don't just stop looking for them because that makes palestinians life hard
if you want better life don't complain about a country that only tries to save it's citizens
problem is all palestinians are chickens they all afraid
your problem is the hamas
the islamic jihad
i've never heard all my life one palestinian saying that this is not right to bomb in israel
not even one!
so what d you want from us?!?!
killing us and complain about us checkin each and everone of you cause he might be the next to do a suicide in here will not make any good for you...you can continue not doin nothing..and your life will stay the same...maybe you just love complaining, i dunnow |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Escobar
Here is where fabrications starts; There was never an incident where a Palestinian child was shot in the head by express intent, the American activist was an accident (wtf, she should not have been ther to begin with), and the "old man in the wheel chair" was one of the bloodiest terrorists to eve live.
On the issue of rape....OMG...that is absolutly insane!! No israeli soldier has ever raped a Palestinian...you are just making this up dude. |
No I'm not making any of these incidents up. I've actually seen video fotage of some of these attrocities. That's exactly my point. You refuse to acknowledge the wrong doing's of Israel/IDF and only acknowledge wrong doing carried out by palestinian militant groups. Furthermore, the fact of the matter is that the palestinians are the indiginous population and european/russian jewish immigrants are not. I also stated earlier that targetting civilians with suicide bombings is wrong so don't put words in my mouth. At the same time, those settlers shouldn't be in the occupied territories to begin with. It's pretty simple dude, if any nation invaded by forieghners, they're going to fight back with whatever means they can(I'm not trying to justify terrorism as a means but they have every right to force out an occupying force that wishes to create a state that doesnt take into account the natives). If you can't get that through your head, there's never going to be peace in the region until one of you is dead. and I hope that's not what you and other pro-Israeli's like you who share your viewpoint: goto a foreighn land, wipe out the indigenous population and take it over for yourselves. And that's what's been going on for decades now. Slowly displacing/killing the indigenous population. |
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| Goashem |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
if this topic of discussion bothers you so much then ingore it and stop participating in it instead of trying to censor everyone else |
i try to, i really do. but sometimes the comments are so ridiculous i cant help myself.
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
It was fine prior to 1948 because it was how it was supposed to be, the state of Palestine was a multiculutral and ethnic area, like it should be. Then it was just handed over to one specific group of people.
If anything the right way it should be technically is an international zone that is not governed by one specific body because it has too many holy sites to the three major religions of the world.
This is the one time I would have to say christians have been semi good and kept their noses out of this . But the Jews and Muslims are never going to be at peace as long as Israel, or even for that matter Palestine exists.
The right thing that needs to be done is Palestine be given back to its people, and the best thing that could be done is disolve any state there and hand over control to an international body such as the UN.
I doubt I will see either in my life time though, or for that matter any of our lifetimes.
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no that place never been fine, ruthless empires ruling the place over the years opressing everyone, pogroms, and constant slaughter of everyone who lived there.
yes the end of occupation is necessary in that region, but making the place an international zone :nervous: |
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| hardcore trancer |
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
in zionist die :) |
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| hardcore trancer |
Terrorist this terrorists that off already.
Iam sorry but fighting back for your country isnt terrorism.You dont like suicide bombing give the palestinians the same army as Isreal then it'll be fair. |
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| ogvh5150 |
| quote: | Originally posted by guetag
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3567791.stm
terrorists sending KIDS to die..
and you (shaolin_Z) say that
"The palestinians are defending themselves" ?!!??!
how can you say that the IDF killing KIDS in purpose
while palestinians terroists sending kids with bombs! |
| quote: | Originally posted by BBC online article
"I wanted virgins in heaven," is the headline in the Hebrew paper Yediot Aharonot. It quotes the boy as telling his interrogators: "My teacher told me what was waiting for me in heaven so I decided to commit suicide." |
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| Chris T. Dot |
Well, thank you Palestinian, that was a much more informed post than I ever thought I would get.
Still waiting for Cyrus. |
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| shaolin_Z |
I never posted that:
It was fine prior to 1948 because it was how it was supposed to be, the state of Palestine was a multiculutral and ethnic area, like it should be. Then it was just handed over to one specific group of people.
If anything the right way it should be technically is an international zone that is not governed by one specific body because it has too many holy sites to the three major religions of the world.
This is the one time I would have to say christians have been semi good and kept their noses out of this . But the Jews and Muslims are never going to be at peace as long as Israel, or even for that matter Palestine exists.
The right thing that needs to be done is Palestine be given back to its people, and the best thing that could be done is disolve any state there and hand over control to an international body such as the UN.
I doubt I will see either in my life time though, or for that matter any of our lifetimes. |
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| Glenn-Holmes |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
Um paragraphs? :p
Ok, I hate jews just as much as I hate muslims and christians and hindus and buhdists. Im not singling out one specific religion or people over another. I am supporting what is fair, and to say that the state of Israel should be allowed to exist is unfair.
IMO the world would be a better place if people of any faith were to be taken care of... ;) |
well the only thing i think we both could agree on is that cultures had runed the world
maybe it would be better if people wouldn't believe there is a god |
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| shaolin_Z |
For those of you who in denial of IDF's horrible crimes:
U.S. Peace Activist Brian Avery Returns to Israel Two Years After Being Shot in the Face
there's an interview at the following link:
http://www.democracynow.org/article...5/02/25/1455249
:rolleyes: Israel was only defending itself from terrorists. :rolleyes: |
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