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The ultimate Israel - Palestine Thread (it's all here) (pg. 22)
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| electrohit |
think again mate coz your very wrong , i live in israel and i really dont feel hate about arabs bcz i can also understand their pain but if you tune in on CNN or any other news channel you mostly will see how bad israel is and how innocent is Palestine but its not true
israel mostly attacks only targets wich are a threat to israel while the Palestinians get on buses , Restaurants etc.. and killing innocent civilians who went out for Lunch or Heading home on the bus
Insted of trying to talk and solve it out they prefer to sucide..
and now for real , who is stupid enough to belive that if he kills himself he will get some in heaven? IMO u must be really stupid to fall for that.. life is a gift weve been given and every person should enjoy it as much as he can.. who need wars when we got raves?
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by electrohit
and now for real , who is stupid enough to belive that if he kills himself he will get some in heaven? IMO u must be really stupid to fall for that |
poor brainwashed moron :rolleyes: |
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| eXstatic |
| quote: | Originally posted by BadBadNeil
Didn't the same AP say just a few days back that Israel only went into that refugee camp because missiles fired from there killed israeli citizens? Now if you are lobbing missiles randomly at civilians and don't expect a retaliation at this point, they need to seriously rethink their strategy. Everytime there is a small pause and then they do something stupid like shooting a missile or blowing up a bus when they know it is just going to inflate the issue and cause the Israeli's to target the military leaders again which will put civlians around them at risk. |
I'm not justifying anybody's actions here, because, frankly, I'm tired of all the going on in this world. People are dying, doesn't matter who's doing it. All this has to end, and when I say end, I don't refere to the clean sweep of a certain group or 'enemy'.
But the question I have for you is...taking in consideration that American's are so patriotic about their country. Let's say you did not have the military you have now, and were only left with what you can manage to create in your own basement or smuggle across some border. Now Canada, with our overwhelming abvantage over your 'military', decided, because of many irrational reasons that you did not agree were true, to invade the U.S. We managed to take majority of the states. With only 2-3 states remaining, and you being in one of them...you're telling me, you would just sit there while we continue to slaughter your people. Even if we did "pause" the attacks, you're telling me Americans would not retaliate in the slightest way, that will lead to "inflating the issue" and cause us "to target the military leaders again which will put civlians around them at risk." |
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| eXstatic |
| quote: | Originally posted by FederalBI
it so nice to see when you stuck and got no answer so you say thinks like your last reply hhh.
you even proove my point your dumb.
This is the difference
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Your picture is pathetic. That fact that not only you agree with that (whatever you believe in is your own problem), but you actually have the audacity to post it as your signiture. You need many years of counseling. People like you deserve to be in the front lines of the Palestinian people. So once your lying there holding hands with the wife's severed body, you can get a glimp of what these people are enduring. I have nothing else to say to this pathetic piece of ... |
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| Cyrus King |
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Israel trial over slain Gaza girl
An Israeli military court has charged an army officer with illegally using his weapon when he allegedly shot a Palestinian girl who was already dead.
The schoolgirl, Iman al-Hams, was killed in Gaza by Israeli soldiers who suspected she was carrying explosives.
Witnesses said the officer emptied the magazine of his weapon into the girl as she lay dead on the ground.
The officer - who has not been named - was also charged with inappropriate behaviour and obstruction of justice.
The charges follow a military police investigation into the incident on 5 October when 13-year-old Iman was killed after straying close to an Israeli army outpost in the town of Rafah on Gaza's border with Egypt.
An earlier internal investigation by the army cleared the officer of any wrongdoing.
Close range
According to the indictment, Iman al-Hams was injured in the initial burst of fire from the army outpost.
Relatives mourn over body of Iman al-Hams
Palestinian doctors said Iman al-Hams was hit by about 20 bullets
The officer and another soldier then approached the wounded girl, but the officer allegedly went on ahead and on reaching her "pointed his weapon, an M16, down and shot her - two shots at very close range".
After moving away from the girl's body, the indictment says, "he turned around and returned to the place where the girl was lying... he aimed his weapon and fired, in automatic mode, about 10 bullets until he emptied his magazine."
The soldiers in the platoon told Israeli newspapers that the officer was "confirming a kill", military slang for firing into the bodies of combatants to ensure they are dead and present no further danger.
The practice goes against Israeli military regulations governing the rules of engagement in the occupied territories. The officer denies all the charges.
School trip
Army chief Moshe Yaalon said the troops had believed the girl was sent by Palestinian militants to lead them away from the outpost so they could be attacked by snipers.
The girl's family said she was on her way to school when she was shot. Her bag contained only school books.
Hundreds of Palestinian children have been killed by Israeli troops during the Palestinian uprising or intifada. Soldiers have become increasingly wary of young Palestinian woman after they carried out a number of suicide attacks.
It is unusual for the army to launch an investigation into the circumstances of Palestinian deaths.
Israel's armed forces have occupied the Gaza Strip since 1967. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon wants to pull troops and settlers out of the territory while retaining full control of its borders, coastline and airspace. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4033377.stm |
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| magicsushi |
| quote: | Israeli officer: I was right to shoot 13-year-old child
Radio exchange contradicts army version of Gaza killing
Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Wednesday November 24, 2004
The Guardian
An Israeli army officer who repeatedly shot a 13-year-old Palestinian girl in Gaza dismissed a warning from another soldier that she was a child by saying he would have killed her even if she was three years old.
The officer, identified by the army only as Captain R, was charged this week with illegal use of his weapon, conduct unbecoming an officer and other relatively minor infractions after emptying all 10 bullets from his gun's magazine into Iman al-Hams when she walked into a "security area" on the edge of Rafah refugee camp last month.
A tape recording of radio exchanges between soldiers involved in the incident, played on Israeli television, contradicts the army's account of the events and appears to show that the captain shot the girl in cold blood.
The official account claimed that Iman was shot as she walked towards an army post with her schoolbag because soldiers feared she was carrying a bomb.
But the tape recording of the radio conversation between soldiers at the scene reveals that, from the beginning, she was identified as a child and at no point was a bomb spoken about nor was she described as a threat. Iman was also at least 100 yards from any soldier.
Instead, the tape shows that the soldiers swiftly identified her as a "girl of about 10" who was "scared to death".
The tape also reveals that the soldiers said Iman was headed eastwards, away from the army post and back into the refugee camp, when she was shot.
At that point, Captain R took the unusual decision to leave the post in pursuit of the girl. He shot her dead and then "confirmed the kill" by emptying his magazine into her body.
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The tape recording is of a three-way conversation between the army watchtower, the army post's operations room and the captain, who was a company commander.
The soldier in the watchtower radioed his colleagues after he saw Iman: "It's a little girl. She's running defensively eastward."
Operations room: "Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?"
Watchtower: "A girl of about 10, she's behind the embankment, scared to death."
A few minutes later, Iman is shot in the leg from one of the army posts.
The watchtower: "I think that one of the positions took her out."
The company commander then moves in as Iman lies wounded and helpless.
Captain R: "I and another soldier ... are going in a little nearer, forward, to confirm the kill ... Receive a situation report. We fired and killed her ... I also confirmed the kill. Over."
Witnesses described how the captain shot Iman twice in the head, walked away, turned back and fired a stream of bullets into her body. Doctors at Rafah's hospital said she had been shot at least 17 times.
On the tape, the company commander then "clarifies" why he killed Iman: "This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over."
The army's original account of the killing said that the soldiers only identified Iman as a child after she was first shot. But the tape shows that they were aware just how young the small, slight girl was before any shots were fired.
The case came to light after soldiers under the command of Captain R went to an Israeli newspaper to accuse the army of covering up the circumstances of the killing.
A subsequent investigation by the officer responsible for the Gaza strip, Major General Dan Harel, concluded that the captain had "not acted unethically".
However, the military police launched an investigation, which resulted in charges against the unit commander.
Iman's parents have accused the army of whitewashing the affair by filing minor charges against Captain R. They want him prosecuted for murder.
Record of a shooting
Watchtower
'It's a little girl. She's running defensively eastward'
Operations room
'Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?'
Watchtower
'A girl of about 10, she's behind the embankment, scared to death'
Captain R (after killing the girl)
'Anything moving in the zone, even a three-year-old, needs to be killed' |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/internati...1358132,00.html |
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| Cyrus King |
| Fuk the terrorist organization called IDF |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by xKaoSx
If you're that passionate about it why dont you get from behind your computer and go do something about it.
You bitch and bitch and bitch about A LOT of but that's all you do- BITCH. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
+1 |
This is a political forum where DISCUSSSIONS are held about these topics.
Its so annoying how people bitch about people's bitching. Stick up your ass.:) |
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| DJ Tom |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Fuk the terrorist organization called |
I concur |
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| Dunya |
What was first? The occupation or the resist?
The occupation duhh. If you fight against Azrael the you are fighting against the USA.
The hell with azrael!! |
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| BadBadNeil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dunya
What was first? The occupation or the resist?
The occupation duhh. If you fight against Azrael the you are fighting against the USA.
The hell with azrael!! |
technically it wasn't an occupation first because the palestinians never had their own country to begin with. |
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