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The ultimate Israel - Palestine Thread (it's all here) (pg. 92)
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| quote: | Originally posted by JM
hi,
i'm Croatian-American, a catholic, and all for Israel and the prosperity of Jewish and Christian people in Israel.
$.02 of mine.
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>JM< |
Go join the IDf they need morons like you there :) |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by JM
hi,
i'm Croatian-American, a catholic, and all for Israel and the prosperity of Jewish and Christian people in Israel.
$.02 of mine.
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>JM< |
:stongue: :haha:
christian palestinians are also bieng opressed and treated just like the other palestinians. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
:stongue: :haha:
christian palestinians are also bieng opressed and treated just like the other palestinians. |
Christian fundamentalists in America really make me laugh. They support Israel but forget they are Christians! 10% of Palestinians are Christians! |
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| shaolin_Z |
| I don't even understand why they support them. Wasn't the messiah supposed to lead the Jewish people back to Israel and until then they were forbiden to do so themselves? Any religious arguments are simply not valid. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I don't even understand why they support them. Wasn't the messiah supposed to lead the Jewish people back to Israel and until then they were forbiden to do so themselves? Any religious arguments are simply not valid. |
Funnily enuf, that was an argument used by early orthodox Jews against the Zionist movement that there should be no Israeli state until the Messiah himself lead them there...! |
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| shaolin_Z |
| Well, there still are Jews who hold say that. They're just marginalized and labelled as 'traitors' and other bull like that. I saw a protest in Canada on TV a couple years/year back I think by jews for freeing palestine while other jews were dissing them. |
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Jerusalem barrier route revealed
Palestinians demonstrate in Ramallah against Israel's West Bank barrier
Palestinians have demanded the barrier be demolished
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has decided how Israel's West Bank barrier will be routed near Jerusalem, officials say.
The barrier will cut East Jerusalem and the largest West Bank settlement off from the rest of the West Bank, and will divide Bethlehem.
Palestinians said the unilateral decision could jeopardise efforts to revive peace talks.
"This is a policy of dictation and not negotiation," said Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat.
"This prejudges and prejudices the outcome of permanent status negotiations."
Israel says the barrier is being built to keep out Palestinian attackers, but Palestinians regard it as a land grab.
The route means lands claimed by the Palestinians for a future state will be on the Israeli side of the barrier.
Completion this year
East Jerusalem is especially sensitive, as Palestinians want it as their capital.
Israel has annexed East Jerusalem, though under international law the area is considered to be occupied territory.
The plan approved by Mr Sharon and prepared by the National Security Council means the largest West Bank Jewish settlement - that of Maale Adumim - would be encompassed by the barrier, though crossings would be built into it to allow access.
The international community considers all settlements in Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, as illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.
The barrier segment is due to be completed by the end of the year.
The town of Bethlehem will be divided so that the Jewish shrine of Rachel's Tomb is on the Israeli side.
Palestinian demonstrators denounced the plan on Monday, massing outside the government complex in Ramallah in the West Bank where UN Secretary General Kofi Annan was visiting.
They demanded implementation of a ruling by the International Court of Justice in The Hague last year that the barrier is illegal and must be torn down. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4347675.stm |
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| ogvh5150 |
"OK jokes on us, but seriuosly can we have our gun back?":
El Al 'planted gun on passenger'
| quote: | El Al 'planted gun on passenger'
An air passenger was stunned to find a handgun in his luggage after a flight with Israel's national carrier El Al.
The man discovered the weapon while unpacking in Israel after a visit to Germany, reports Israeli daily Haaretz.
He immediately reported the find to the police only to be told that the weapon, which had been de-activated, was part of a security drill for airline staff.
Security officers sometimes put replica guns in luggage to keep bag checkers on their toes, Haaretz says.
In theory, the weapon would be discovered during checks and removed, leaving passengers none the wiser.
This handgun, however, appears to have slipped through the net.
The airline could not confirm or deny the report.
"El Al uses different tactics to ensure the safety of its passengers," said a spokeswoman. "We won't detail our tactics."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/...ast/3517570.stm
Published: 2004/03/16 20:55:40 GMT
© BBC MMV |
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| Dunya |
That's reality:rolleyes: |
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| ogvh5150 |
To those who think the conflict/war/intifada/jihad is real think again:
Wolfowitz Dating Muslim Woman Causes Stir
| quote: | Wednesday, 23, March, 2005 (12, Safar, 1426)
Wolfowitz Dating Muslim Woman Causes Stir
Barbara Ferguson, Arab News —
WASHINGTON, 23 March 2005 — Here’s a bit of news that had Washingtonians choking on their coffee this morning: President Bush’s neoconservative hawk Paul Wolfowitz, the Pentagon’s architect of the US invasion of Iraq, is dating a Muslim!
While battle lines have hardened over President Bush’s nomination of Wolfowitz to become president of the World Bank, what many say is really fueling the controversy is concern within the bank over Wolfowitz’s reported romantic relationship with Shaha Ali Riza, an Arab feminist who is the acting manager for External Relations and Outreach for the Middle East and North Africa Region at the World Bank.
Political foes of Wolfowitz portray him as a leader of Washington’s Jewish neo-conservatives driving a blindly pro-Israel policy in the Middle East. Critics have also noted that his sister, Laura, a biologist, lives in Israel and has an Israeli husband.
But Wolfowitz, a married father of three, is said to be so blinded by his relationship with Riza, that influential members of the World Bank believe she played a key role in influencing the Pentagon official to launch the 2003 Iraq war. As his trusted confident, she is said to be one of most influential Muslims in Washington.
What they are said to share is a passion to establish democracy in the Middle East.
Riza, in her mid-fifties, was born in Tunis and grew up in Saudi Arabia. Her childhood is said to have done much to shape her commitment to democracy, equal rights and civil liberties in the Arab world based on her first hand experiences.
She brought those beliefs with her when she joined the World Bank in 1997.
Riza studied at the London School of Economics in the 1970s before taking a master’s degree at St. Anthony’s College, Oxford, where she met her former husband, Turkish Cypriot Bulent Ali Riza, from whom she is now divorced.
After they moved to America, Riza worked for the Iraq Foundation, set up by expatriates to overthrow Saddam Hussein after the first Gulf War. She subsequently joined the National Endowment for Democracy, created by President Ronald Reagan to promote American ideals.
It was this time that Riza, a British citizen eight years younger than Wolfowitz’s wife — started to meet with Wolfowitz about reforming the Middle East. They allegedly began dating two years ago.
Even by the discreet standards of Washington’s powerful inner circle, their relationship is a remarkably closely guarded secret. The Washington Post says the couple rarely goes out together or demonstrates affection publicly, according to friends who are aware of the relationship. They attend low-key Washington social events and visit friends’ homes together and Riza also sometimes goes to official functions and dinners with him, but is not identified as his partner, an acquaintance said.
“His womanizing has come home to roost,” a Washington insider told reporters. “Paul was a foreign policy hawk long before he met Riza but it doesn’t look good to be accused of being under the thumb of your mistress.”
A Wolfowitz opponent at the World Bank told a reporter: “Unless Riza gives up her job, this will be an impossible conflict of interest.”
Wolfowitz married his wife Clare Selgin in 1968. But they have lived separately since 2001, after allegations he had an affair with an employee at the School of Advanced International Studies where he was dean for seven years. They are now believed to be legally separated.
The World Bank’s staff association has told executives it has been swamped with complaints from employees about Wolfowitz.
However, Wolfowitz’s only comment on the complaints has been a terse statement issued through a Pentagon spokesman. He said: “If a personal relationship presents a potential conflict of interest, I will comply with bank policies to resolve the issue.”
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| Abhay |
| quote: | Originally posted by Escobar
I Just got back to Toronto this year after living in Israel during the past 4.
My Parents work for the UN and I did my University there...
I can tell you with certainty that that does not happen...The Helly was shooting terrorists...
That comment you made just goes to prove the general anti-Israel Bias....where you actualy believe that a democracy would just send a Hely someplace and order it to shoot randomly...total non-sense!!
We are in an era of terrorism...it must be dealt with. There is n exuse for it. Blowing up buses and coffe shops with innocent people is just animalism... |
Hey Sherlock,
You were in Israel. Hence, u get Israeli Media... Name me one country with stable government with it's media is not biased toward's it's own nation.
I couldn't give a if ur parents work for the UN...
We have members of our family in the UN too. |
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| Abhay |
| OMFG WHY DID'T I FIND THIS THREAD BEFORE??? :D :D :D |
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