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The ultimate Israel - Palestine Thread (it's all here)
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Cyrus King
I am bringing up this thread once again, because I want people to know how brutal this military is towards the Palestinians. People should be aware of the state sponsored acts of intimidation this machine of death has caused. And to those whining zionist pussies who went crying to the mods to delete my thread before..well, here it is again....FACE IT!!!!!!!

This is my opinion, like many others on this forum, and in no way implies that we hate Israeli's or Jews... So to the Pro-Israeli camp, it wold be appreciated if you didnt come here labelling us as terrorist lovers or the ever so popular "anti-semetic". This is a thread that will examine the tactics and results that Israel utilizes against the "enemy" to further their hegemonic agenda. If you have any debatable criticisms, analyses, or constructive comments about the articles posted or the actions taken by the IDF related to the articles, please dont hesitate to post...EVEN YOU ILAN!;)

For any others who would like to keep this thread alive, please post articles relating to the aggressive and murderous tactics this military has employed to "rid terrorists", or the suffering caused by Israels dispicable actions.


Lets get on to politics!

The recent events unfolding in the Gaza strip have further reinforced my belief that the Sharon government cares nothing for human life or dignity. They have, as one UN official has said, created a "living hell" in Rafah.

Dozens are killed everyday along with the systemic and ruthless demolishon of housing structures that has left thousands homeless this week.

These articles speak for themselves

quote:
A Palestinian stands amid damaged houses during an Israeli raid at the Rafah refugee camp in the southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites) May 18, 2004. Israel's army killed at least 19 Palestinians on Tuesday in the heaviest raid inside the Gaza Strip for years as tanks and infantry thrust into a militant stronghold despite an international outcry



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A Palestinian woman holds a baby in the rubble of her house after it was hit by a missile from an Israeli helicopter, at the Rafah refugee camp in the southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites), May 18, 2004. Israeli forces killed 13 Palestinians Tuesday in the biggest raid on the Gaza Strip for years as tanks and infantry thrust into a militant stronghold despite an international outcry



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A Palestinian woman injured in an Israeli missile strike on the Rafah refugee camp, in the Gaza Strip, is helped to Najar hospital.




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The bodies of Palestinian Ahmed Mughayer, 13, and his sister Asma, 16, right, are wrapped in blankets after being brought from the Talesultan area of the Rafah refugee camp, in the southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites), Tuesday, May 18, 2004. Both were on the roof of their three-story apartment building when they were hit by army fire, said their older brother, Ali. The shots were fired from an Israeli army position on the sixth floor of the neighboring building, he said.


:rolleyes:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1111023.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/St...1219322,00.html
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.a...middle&Cr1=east
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/upd...h%20wounded.htm
a-L.MSI|BLiTz
so true....but this destruction and injustice won´t proceed much longer, at SOME point the international organizations and the EU etc. WILL have enough of these actions as they are already condemmed by many leaders.
TRANCEEEE
quote:
It also called on Palestinian officials to take "all possible measures" to stop attacks against Israelis, and to keep militants from initiating armed confrontations near civilian areas...



OK... inorder to initiate judgement one has to look at the root n cuz of this conflict from the first day it began some 40 years ago ... from my understanding n knwledge of the area ,, i n practically the majority of ppl that look at the situation open minded not favouring one nation over the other would say >>>> "ISREAL IS OCCUPYING ANOTHER COUNTRY"
OCCUPATION would lead to anger once faced with refusal to back up n reside. its simple u take a baby's lolypop, he/she fukin crys .... its that simple Mr & Ms Zionist... OK >> so whats the solution ?????
A) give bak the lolypop
B) try to shut him/her up by constantly sayin shhhhhhhhhhhhhh shhhhhh ,, n then getting frustrated cuz the babis still hasnt gotten his/her loly bak, n hence making matters worse.

" It also called on Palestinian officials to take "all possible measures" to stop attacks against Israelis" <------ WHY SHOULD THEY ????
are they been giving bak n e thing ??? is isreal making sure that the mess they've made over the past 40 years is been taken care of n is retreating to their own region ????
THE ANSWER IS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
SOOOO as george fukin bush said "isreal'ss have every right to battle terrosrism" (so called terrosrism ,,, i see it more like self defence )

PALESTINIANS HAVE EVERY FUKIN RIGHT TO KILL THE JEWS THAT OCCUPY THEIR LAND N WHO TERRORISE N COMMIT CRIMES ... n r basically the real terrorists ...
theres so much to say .... im tired now

NO OFFENSE TO THE REAL JEWISH PPL ,, take a look at these pix please ,,, u'd know what i mean ...
xKaoSx
If you're that passionate about it why dont you get from behind your computer and go do something about it.

You bitch and bitch and bitch about A LOT of but that's all you do- BITCH.
TRANCEEEE
quote:
Originally posted by xKaoSx
If you're that passionate about it why dont you get from behind your computer and go do something about it.

You bitch and bitch and bitch about A LOT of but that's all you do- BITCH.


how do you u know he's not active ???? n this is part of "doing something "....> making ignorant ppl like u aware of the crisis ...
Yoepus
quote:
Originally posted by a-L.MSI|BLiTz
so true....but this destruction and injustice won´t proceed much longer, at SOME point the international organizations and the EU etc. WILL have enough of these actions as they are already condemmed by many leaders.


lol :crazy:

yea just like the UN did something about Rawanda or the Balkans.

Dream on hippie:p
xKaoSx
quote:
Originally posted by TRANCEEEE
how do you u know he's not active ???? n this is part of "doing something "....> making ignorant ppl like u aware of the crisis ...


Because people who bitch as much as him just bitch TO bitch.
They will never do anything about it.

I didnt realize Toronto was a perfect city and nothing
wrong there.

There are enough ed up things wrong with my own City/State/Country to worry about crap like that.
Fix yourself before you fix the rest of the world.
dj_ilan_yosef
This is yet again another pathetic attempt to delegitimize Israel’s right to exist and to take the attention off the real problem of terrorism - rather than self defense. Israel has a right to exist. Israel is a legal country as announced by the UN in '48.

I didn't expect any better from you Cyrus... or the buffoons that you herded in here after you.

If you want to make a stand against injustice, then you should start with defending EVERYONES right to exist in peace and security - not just the rights and security of the Palestinian-Arabs.

I promise you one thing, as long as there are people like those who posted so arrogantly against Israel above, there will be people like me fighting to survive - to protect a country and its citizens from all forms of terrorism... including the disastrous spreading of anti-Semitism worldwide.

The real threat here is not to the lives of Arabs, but to the very few remaining Jews throughout the world in today’s political climate of indoctrinated hate and intolerance. I'd like to remind you once more that it's not Israel’s education system that breeds animals fresh to kill.

If you're interested in saving Arab lives, than I suggest you take a strong approach towards combating the governments of dictatorship countries who continue to feed 'hate' its deadly lifeline. Funny that 90%+ of those countries are Islamic rooted, yet it’s these same very people 'fighting' for their bloody rights that are supposedly 'overlooked.'

I piss on you for expecting the world to sympathize with your terrorist tactics of killing INNOCENT CIVILIANS. Don’t sit there and wait for the world to help you when you do nothing but harm others to make your 'voice' heard. No one wants to hear these voices that preach hate and the killings of Jews/Israelis/Westerners.

If there were no Islamists continuing the work of Hitler and Stalin, we wouldn't need such powerful armies as we now see is the case with Israel and the US. I'm sure we're all aware of the consequences of not having a strong army to protect against the hateful practices of the Palestinians and other terrorist societies throughout the world. Societies that we're created by leaders who have a political agenda that spreads far beyond the lives of their own.

No matter which way you look at it, one thing will forever stay true - If the Arabs put down their weapons there will be no more killing, however, if Israel put down her weapons, there would be no more Israel.
Is it any wonder why we haven’t seen these terror-infested-filth-******s step back? The death of a Jew is way more valuable to them than the life of their own children.

This in no way is meant as a shot against Islam - its a straight relization of where terror lies and what must happen before we walk towards a path of peace. Not like thats the path your camp. is looking for anyways.

(don't expect another response from me)
Reverend_Trance
quote:
Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef
This is yet again another pathetic attempt to delegitimize Israel’s right to exist and to take the attention off the real problem of terrorism - rather than self defense. Israel has a right to exist. Israel is a legal country as announced by the UN in '48.

I didn't expect any better from you Cyrus... or the buffoons that you herded in here after you.

If you want to make a stand against injustice, then you should start with defending EVERYONES right to exist in peace and security - not just the rights and security of the Palestinian-Arabs.

I promise you one thing, as long as there are people like those who posted so arrogantly against Israel above, there will be people like me fighting to survive - to protect a country and its citizens from all forms of terrorism... including the disastrous spreading of anti-Semitism worldwide.

The real threat here is not to the lives of Arabs, but to the very few remaining Jews throughout the world in today’s political climate of indoctrinated hate and intolerance. I'd like to remind you once more that it's not Israel’s education system that breeds animals fresh to kill.

If you're interested in saving Arab lives, than I suggest you take a strong approach towards combating the governments of dictatorship countries who continue to feed 'hate' its deadly lifeline. Funny that 90%+ of those countries are Islamic rooted, yet it’s these same very people 'fighting' for their bloody rights that are supposedly 'overlooked.'

I piss on you for expecting the world to sympathize with your terrorist tactics of killing INNOCENT CIVILIANS. Don’t sit there and wait for the world to help you when you do nothing but harm others to make your 'voice' heard. No one wants to hear these voices that preach hate and the killings of Jews/Israelis/Westerners.

If there were no Islamists continuing the work of Hitler and Stalin, we wouldn't need such powerful armies as we now see is the case with Israel and the US. I'm sure we're all aware of the consequences of not having a strong army to protect against the hateful practices of the Palestinians and other terrorist societies throughout the world. Societies that we're created by leaders who have a political agenda that spreads far beyond the lives of their own.

No matter which way you look at it, one thing will forever stay true - If the Arabs put down their weapons there will be no more killing, however, if Israel put down her weapons, there would be no more Israel.
Is it any wonder why we haven’t seen these terror-infested-filth-******s step back? The death of a Jew is way more valuable to them than the life of their own children.

This in no way is meant as a shot against Islam - its a straight relization of where terror lies and what must happen before we walk towards a path of peace. Not like thats the path your camp. is looking for anyways.

(don't expect another response from me)


I think he hit the nail right on the head with that post.
Flotser
I guess that after what happend today....
this operation will come to end....
the same mistakes from Lebanon. :(

TRANCEEEE
quote:
Originally posted by Reverend_Trance
I think he hit the nail right on the head with that post.



HOw THA F**K IS TAT PERFECT ????
buddy , u guys obviously don't know ... Y would u call the state of palestine a terrorist state ? n who said isreal is not entitled to it's OWN COUNRTY ??? its like ure saying palestine is occupying isreal , its isreal occupying palestine wat r u retarded ? ,,, i guess u got it mixed up ,,, go turn on the cartoon network man ,,, u obviously have no clue of politics or simply URE ONE OF THOSE BLIND ZIONISTS .
MisterOpus1
quote:
Originally posted by TRANCEEEE
HOw THA F**K IS TAT PERFECT ????
buddy , u guys obviously don't know ... Y would u call the state of palestine a terrorist state ? n who said isreal is not entitled to it's OWN COUNRTY ??? its like ure saying palestine is occupying isreal , its isreal occupying palestine wat r u retarded ? ,,, i guess u got it mixed up ,,, go turn on the cartoon network man ,,, u obviously have no clue of politics or simply URE ONE OF THOSE BLIND ZIONISTS .


I know you're pretty riled up here, and I sympathize, but I honestly had a hard time reading your post. Perhaps a little more editing, a few less commas and question marks? Sorry, I don't mean to be so damn nitpicky, but a sound argument is always made with good grammer/spelling/punctuation/etc.

In other news:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast...east/index.html

I understand the need for Israel to defend itself, and I also understand the fact that Palestine does little to curb their terrorist groups (who do, in fact, bomb and murder innocent civilians, just in case you didn't know). But current Israeli policy just seems to begat more violence.

This is not the way to peace, in my humble opinion.
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