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*: * So* Much * Random * Talking * Here :* ~Episode III (pg. 1108)
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Only if you believe him to be serious. Personally I see the Republic as more of a criticism of idealism and the like than a serious idea he wished to have implemented. |
Nah, it makes sense historically: Athens had just got beaten by Sparta and the former wrestler thought it'd be pretty awesome if we modelled the perfect Republic after Sparta, but with philosophers as king lest he became useless. He even had the chance to implement his Republic in Southern Italy but he ended up being kicked out when the project didn't work.
These are all the explanations I've ever heard, I've never seen a Plato scholar claim it was a parody/criticism/intentional dystopia. |
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| Lews |
| Except he even says that it wouldn't actually work :p |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Except he even says that it wouldn't actually work :p |
What part are we talking about? |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
What part are we talking about? |
I can't think of the exact quote of the top of my head, or where it is in The Republic, but he says somewhere that while this would be the perfect system of government it would never work because as soon as it gets any bigger the whole thing will collapse. |
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| Lilith |
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzQi
Also I am teaching my gf to drive a manual - she managed to do 15 starts in a row without stalling the car. We making progress :crazy: |
lol it took mine about 8 months to the point she could actually drive it ok and then decided she hated manual cars "because it was too much effort" :mad: |
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| Meat187 |
I had this totally awesome dream this night:
I was leading some small resistance group against some dictator regime (not Sushipunk). The dictator was some older guy with shoulder-long black hair and he had a henchman that looked a bit like Salvador Dali. I barely escaped when they killed a group of innocent people and then burned a crow (banners with a crow burning alive on top was their symbol for some reason). Right after that massacre they did a rock music video with the dictator singing and his Dali-henchman playing guitar, total cliché with them facing some wind, getting watter splashed in their face and singing about fighting and seizing the power. They did this to improve their public image and make younger folks join them. Brilliant idea imho, I wonder why no real life tyrant has ever thought of that.
Anyway, we were just planning an attack on one of their facilities and a hot co-worker, who was also in the resistance, promised me a sexytime afterwards (not with mere words I might add), when I woke up. :( :( :( :mad: :mad: :mad: |
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| Ian |
| off for my first haircut in over 3 months. Hope they've got the hedgecutters ready :nervous: |
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| FuzzQi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
I've been looking at Windows Word for about 4 hours now and haven't written anything for a paper that is due in 5 hours. It's the most vague and annoying question ever.
If you regard yourself as a non-religious person, state what you regard as the most comprehensive reality that frames or transcends your own existence and describe what you take to be its essential features or attributes.
I knew I should have faked being a Christian for this damn religion class.
Lira, what the is it asking me? :( |
This is late but your reality is framed by this so write about it:
| quote: | Originally posted by Lilith
lol it took mine about 8 months to the point she could actually drive it ok and then decided she hated manual cars "because it was too much effort" :mad: |
Ha, this is only her 2nd time behind the wheel ever so I am pretty proud of her effort there. I can see it taking that long though :p |
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Except he even says that it wouldn't actually work :p |
he says people should get as close to it as possible... the quote is roughly that even though some of the stuff he says is impracticle, he's trying to get as close to perfection as possible.. he meant it to be implemented, and for the ideal he designed to be the central principle... which is a ing horrible idea because of this...
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Actually, he pretty much designed the worst possible case scenario in the history of political ideas! You've got to give him some credit! :p |
but yeah, he believed it would work, just admitted it wouldn't work EXACTLY as he hoped it would |
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
I have no idea why you’re bothering to discuss this with me given my earlier statement…Perhaps you’re too busy contemplating the true meaning and metaphysical existence of my words, rather than just understanding their existence as defined by the dictionary of reality? |
LOL almost missed this! :haha: :stongue: |
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| dj_alfi |
| page 333. nicccce |
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