Originally posted by EgosXII
Yeah this is what i was getting at, i obviously like a lot of stuff during the periods i was criticising, its just that its all fine-tuning, instead of innovating.. edm definitely has changed but it came from the 80s... look at blue monday for example, that turned into 90s synth pop which turned into house etc.. i like it, and im by no means revolutionary it was really more just a criticism of society in general, in all fields we're just fixing problems with existing structures rsther than attempting to create anything new...
We're just all too comfortable and happy ffs :stongue:
Umm, house came quite a bit before 90s synth pop. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.
EgosXII
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
Umm, house came quite a bit before 90s synth pop. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.
yeah sorry i'm saying it all came outta the 80s electronica (human league, gary numan etc), just escalating in 'seriousness'-- :toothless
edit: also meant to say trance, BUT i didn't really know house was around in the 80s... thanks for helping me make my point :stongue:
Lilith
Oh yes, there was house back in the 80's...
...and it was good!
I really can't stand the modern spin so to speak literally on house, its just so god damn rubbish :p
Fledz
Awesome 1996 house reporting in. One of my favourite tracks, recently discovered
Moongoose
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Originally posted by Fledz
Awesome 1996 house reporting in. One of my favourite tracks, recently discovered
For things like this there should be a like button on TA
Halcyon+On+On
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Originally posted by EgosXII
I don't think i really 'get' the whole new disco thing...
like 70s and 80s stuff i really like, but it kinda pisses me off all the stuff coming out lately which has the same production values, simply because these people are INTENTIONALLY making it sound bad so it sounds like its 30 years old...
disco was out of time because it was played live, and the technology wasn't good enough to fkn quantize everything, these days all you have to do is hit a button and your instruments will be in time, yet you get these guys who are no doubt mad producers zooming in and intentionally putting instruments out of time simply to mimic the sound...
pisses me off.
make something ing new instead of ripping off a style... the 90s and 00s really have not created anything new whatsoever, its a ing population of reinventors, wtf happened to the human drive to improve, and revolutionise!?!?!?
every style, and movement for the last 20 years has simply been a reimagination of old movements... wtf is wrong with everybody!? :mad:
Conservativism in entertainment culture typically comes in progressive waves, often shattered by the advent of something relatively fresh and new. It's why some musical acts or movements are thought of as "revolutionary", even though that sounds like just a buzzword to sell t-shirts. It's not usually something you can recognize until far after the fact, but culture and politics obviously go hand-in-hand. Horror movies, for example, see repeated revivals depending on global events such as war or economy. Disco was a brief movement that had almost everything to do with the rising of large clubs, new drugs, and a recovering economy wrought with resource tensions and a United States thinking it was too mature for the Vietnam War - or just forgetting about it altogether. This transitioned into the 1980s and obviously 90s, but I think that nowadays we are experiencing a lull not dissimilar to the 1950s - it's an impossible thing to predict, of course, as the US, for one example, is still embroiled in heavy martial occupations, but once those soldiers come back in about 10 years, we're in for quite a shock! Of course by then, all of TA will be aging suburbanites who talk about trance as 'the good old days' and will refuse to even listen to anything new, if the past generation is much of an indicator. In fact, it's already kind of happening...
It's obviously a very flimsy theory, but Howard Bloom wrote a few chapters about it in his Lucifer Principle, and I think it's very possibly true on at least some levels.
couch-potato
>Theorizing on forums to compensate for lack of groove.
Halcyon+On+On
>>Implying I lack groove.
>>negrono.jpg
Moongoose
Halcyon+On+On
Hahah, I like the hair band comparison.
EgosXII
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Conservativism in entertainment culture typically comes in progressive waves, often shattered by the advent of something relatively fresh and new. It's why some musical acts or movements are thought of as "revolutionary", even though that sounds like just a buzzword to sell t-shirts. It's not usually something you can recognize until far after the fact, but culture and politics obviously go hand-in-hand. Horror movies, for example, see repeated revivals depending on global events such as war or economy. Disco was a brief movement that had almost everything to do with the rising of large clubs, new drugs, and a recovering economy wrought with resource tensions and a United States thinking it was too mature for the Vietnam War - or just forgetting about it altogether. This transitioned into the 1980s and obviously 90s, but I think that nowadays we are experiencing a lull not dissimilar to the 1950s - it's an impossible thing to predict, of course, as the US, for one example, is still embroiled in heavy martial occupations, but once those soldiers come back in about 10 years, we're in for quite a shock! Of course by then, all of TA will be aging suburbanites who talk about trance as 'the good old days' and will refuse to even listen to anything new, if the past generation is much of an indicator. In fact, it's already kind of happening...
It's obviously a very flimsy theory, but Howard Bloom wrote a few chapters about it in his Lucifer Principle, and I think it's very possibly true on at least some levels.
Yeah i definitely agree, which is why in the later post i suggested we're just all too happy these days, re/evolution always comes out of conflict in some form or another, ironically as the fixation on jesus lessens we've gotten more like the guy so thqt these days we all just chill out pretty much of the time... i wonder what type of music is being made in the developing world... western rock would be nothing without the opression of the owners of production, maybe the same things happening in china as what happened in the 70s and 80s here...
EgosXII
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