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FIFA World Cup 2010 in South Africa Discussion (pg. 127)
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| noikeee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
they do...that is what 1994 was about. |
And they were very unlucky to end up with a really poor final, after a spectacular competition...
Of course they care, but FIFA isn't going to bend over and risk worldwide popularity about the sport just to please you guys. Perhaps they should push indoor football (futsal) in the US and Canada, sounds more like your cup of tea, plenty of goals and all. It's a fun sport, but it's not the real thing. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
Football does change its rules to improve, constantly. Subs, cards, pass-backs, offside, league points... they've all been added and changed and tweaked.
Changing the game to appeal to idiot Americans would mean alienating many existing fans who don't want advert breaks and countless, meaningless goals. I find basketball ing boring because there's nothing precious about scoring. It'll happen again, and again, and again. The beauty of football is that the game is set up to allow so many different outcomes, rather than being manufactured into entertainment to guarentee hollow action.
If you couldn't have the dull 0-0s then the 4-4s wouldn't be as special. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
What the die hard fans don't realize is that its the casual fans that will determine what changes happen in a sport. All of the major sports care about making more and more money....the more new fans you gain the more money you will make. The die hard fans are going to continue to watch the sport even if there are some somewhat major changes in the sport. If FIFA feels a change will create more new fans then they will loose existing fans then they will make the change.
I find it pathetic that so many soccer fans think their sport is just perfect and are unwilling to accept the fact that maybe change would be good for the sport. |
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| noikeee |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
What the die hard fans don't realize is that its the casual fans that will determine what changes happen in a sport. All of the major sports care about making more and more money....the more new fans you gain the more money you will make. The die hard fans are going to continue to watch the sport even if there are some somewhat major changes in the sport. If FIFA feels a change will create more new fans then they will loose existing fans then they will make the change.
I find it pathetic that so many soccer fans think their sport is just perfect and are unwilling to accept the fact that maybe change would be good for the sport. |
Okay, so stop talking to us, go ask the millions of casual fans in Europe, South America, or even Africa and Asia, and enjoy all the different variants of " off" answers you'll be greeted with. :)
Football isn't perfect, clearly a tweak or two could be done, but it would also be completely retarded to do a major revolution to it. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
If FIFA feels a change will create more new fans then they will loose existing fans then they will make the change. |
They clearly won't make these changes, or you wouldn't be pissing and moaning in this thread. North America is a growing audience for football as it stands, and with every other continent safely locked down they're not going to things up for a few idiot Americans who want Added Time Multi-Ball. |
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| Ghost Raver |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I find it pathetic that so many soccer fans think their sport is just perfect and are unwilling to accept the fact that maybe change would be good for the sport. |
I find it pathetic that some from where ever thinks a sport needs to be changed severely to match his own personal preferences. Do you really think these changes aren't applied if needed? And who the do you think you are to talk about every single casual viewer in the world, or even in the part where you are?
I think watching hockey is boring and that the sport has no appeal to it whatsoever, but I don't go around shouting for changes in the sport, leaving its current fans amazed with the amount of annoying bull I can pour out at any given moment. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
What the die hard fans don't realize is that its the casual fans that will determine what changes happen in a sport. All of the major sports care about making more and more money....the more new fans you gain the more money you will make. The die hard fans are going to continue to watch the sport even if there are some somewhat major changes in the sport. If FIFA feels a change will create more new fans then they will loose existing fans then they will make the change.
I find it pathetic that so many soccer fans think their sport is just perfect and are unwilling to accept the fact that maybe change would be good for the sport. |
Your theory is flawed because die hard fans are the ones that keep clubs alive. Without season tickets and merchandise sales, all of which are driven primarily by fans, there would be no clubs left (With exception to the worlds major clubs (ManU, Barca, Chelsea, Real, etc.) who mainly big money from people who don't even live their country).
This is a not an American sport driven by advertising revenue from TV commercials - BBC doesn't even have advertising. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ghost Raver
I find it pathetic that some from where ever thinks a sport needs to be changed severely to match his own personal preferences. Do you really think these changes aren't applied if needed? And who the do you think you are to talk about every single casual viewer in the world, or even in the part where you are?
I think watching hockey is boring and that the sport has no appeal to it whatsoever, but I don't go around shouting for changes in the sport, leaving its current fans amazed with the amount of annoying bull I can pour out at any given moment. |
the thing is hockey listened when the casual viewer did complain and they made changes...some of which have made the game better...some I personally think have made the game worse....but guess what...hockey viewership keeps increasing because the die hards continue to watch and new fans have started tuning in. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
They clearly won't make these changes, or you wouldn't be pissing and moaning in this thread. North America is a growing audience for football as it stands, and with every other continent safely locked down they're not going to things up for a few idiot Americans who want Added Time Multi-Ball. |
the flaw in your thinking is that you actually think people in the other continents will stop watching the game because they make some changes....this will not happen...die hard fans will continue to watch. Some will accept the changes and think they have improved the game, some will hate the changes but will still watch and maybe a very small few will never watch soccer again. The few that will never watch again will be washed out by the number of new fans. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
the flaw in your thinking is that you actually think people in the other continents will stop watching the game because they make some changes....this will not happen...die hard fans will continue to watch. Some will accept the changes and think they have improved the game, some will hate the changes but will still watch and maybe a very small few will never watch soccer again. The few that will never watch again will be washed out by the number of new fans. |
There is no flaw in my thinking, because there are absolutely no statistics from which you can make such assertions. My thinking is that the game is more popular than it's ever been, it has all-time highs of revenue and TV audiences and FIFA have made no changes to create this popularity and show no signs of making any changes in the near future. |
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| Swamper |
So well written. I LOL'd at least twice and I like Ronaldo.
"There are, however, other athletes out there, and not just in soccer, whose talent and ability to dominate a game equals Cristiano Ronaldo's, but no one quite so fully embraces the role of the classic villain quite so much as he does, and that side of him was also readily apparent yesterday. He carries himself in a way that suggests that he fully believes that there is no one anywhere -- not just on the pitch, not just in soccer, but anywhere -- who is as Cristiano Ronaldo as he is. He preens. He peacocks. When he stands still, a hip is always cocked to one side.
When he is not near the ball, he will jog with all the urgency of a man crossing a city street just as the light has begun to blink. When an opponent has deigned to knock him to the ground, and a foul has not been called, he will lie there, lounging, for 30 seconds or more, as if to make sure that everyone sees what someone has just done to Cristiano Ronaldo. When a teammate fails to score after receiving one of his brilliant and perfectly positioned passes -- as happened at least twice Monday -- he looks to the sky and rolls his eyes, because, of course, Cristiano Ronaldo would have scored if only Cristiano Ronaldo could have passed the ball to Cristiano Ronaldo."
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...istiano.ronaldo |
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