Germany lost to Slovakia? They weren't even in the same group.
Lira
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Originally posted by Fledz
Germany lost to Slovakia? They weren't even in the same group.
Comes to show how obstinate the Slovakians really are!
Domesticated
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I think you need to re-read your own first post if you think that was your original point.
As Lira said, thanks for explaining my own point to me. No, I didn't elucidate it very clearly in my first post, but my immediate follow-up made it perfectly clear.
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I can't be bothered to compare all sports because you have no real reasoning for this assertion beyond vague anecdotal evidence with no cited examples
Neither do you, so why carry on like you're the expert here and I'm the dunce? It's a simple matter of opinion which can't be settled, so let's just leave it at that. One example versus Germany isn't worth anything.
malek
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Not sure how loose they were, but I sure did see Germany lose to Slovakia. :p
you mean croatia and that's a few world cups ago.
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by Fledz
Germany lost to Slovakia? They weren't even in the same group.
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Originally posted by malek
you mean croatia and that's a few world cups ago.
Ack I meant Serbia. Sorry, got them mixed up. /n00b mistake.
woscar
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Originally posted by Domesticated
As Lira said, thanks for explaining my own point to me. No, I didn't elucidate it very clearly in my first post, but my immediate follow-up made it perfectly clear.
Neither do you, so why carry on like you're the expert here and I'm the dunce? It's a simple matter of opinion which can't be settled, so let's just leave it at that. One example versus Germany isn't worth anything.
gehzumteufel
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Trance-MB
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Originally posted by djhaziel
I must have seen the ball flying over the bar at least 500 times .
Exactly.
Keepers even had to hold in otherwise they shot the ball straight in the hands of the other one. Former keeper Ronald Waterreus ( Roda JC, PSV, Manchester City FC, Glasgow Rangers, AZ en Red Bull New York) suggested on Dutch television after the first round to let the keeper shoot directly to the strikers :)
For the Dutch I remember they used to shoot many cross balls and to the wing players.
Haven't seen many succeed in that. Fields of concrete also don't make this easier.
Trance-MB
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Originally posted by Saint John
I think anyone who bitches about the ball is just looking for things to blame. These people are PROFESSIONALS. They get paid absurd amounts of money to play the game. They should be able to change and adapt to whatever is thrown at them.
But it even was more annoying for people to watch than for the players to see that many shots go wrong. Shotting balls 20 meters over is a piece of cake, that's not what we want to see at a WC. Just look at the list of strikers which didn't bring what we expected to.
Not being able to make a decent ball and able to put a decent field in brandnew stadiums to me is more like UNPROFESSIONAL.
Players said they needed more time to adapt, but IMO a ball which behaves strange in the air will continue to do so even after playing with it for months. The only thing what will change is that players only shoot over the ground instead of thru the air, which is much more spectacular.
De Jong said he didn't see Alonso. LOL, his eyes must have been closed as I can only see that Alonso didn't see De Jong. Shows what a total off-day the ref and his buddies had:
noikeee
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Originally posted by jupiterone
every world cup they complain about the ball, it's nothing new
Yes, but this is the first time when it VISIBLY affected the quality of the game. You could see all the time the players were having an harder time than usual picking up long balls. The previous world cup balls were only really difficult for the keepers with their weird effects when shot. This one was weird not just in shots but in passes as well.
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by noikeee
Yes, but this is the first time when it VISIBLY affected the quality of the game. You could see all the time the players were having an harder time than usual picking up long balls. The previous world cup balls were only really difficult for the keepers with their weird effects when shot. This one was weird not just in shots but in passes as well.
The ball wasn't weird, so much as everyone kept over shooting everything, shots and passes alike. The ball has very low drag, and as such, requires less effort to produce the same result. If you aren't used to that, it is easy to blame the ball for something you just aren't aware of.
Palladium
Spain has a friendly against Mexico in Mexico City on august 11th, they signed a contract saying they have to bring most of their stars (80% of those who played the world cup, so basically the starting 11) 3 months before the world cup but i guess they didn't have the slightest idea of becoming champions then and now they are complaining about bringing most of their stars to play this friendly after the "exhausting" world cup they had and are planning to send the u-21.
