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FIFA World Cup 2010 in South Africa Discussion (pg. 237)
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Oh contraire - elitism tends to be highly refined. |
Point taken...
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
As has been repeatedly established, fan violence and vuvuzelas are utterly unrelated. You can try and bury that in high falutin' prose as much as you please, but I'll keep batting it back at you. FIFA and the South African security forces have been exceptional in their control of violence in this tournament. There is no argument there. |
Repeatedly established? In this thread, I suppose? You're maintaining that this thread has authoritatively diminished the association between Football, vuvuzelas and fan violence? Perhaps I should argue that the Bernoulli's Principal no longer applies to air-frame stability. I'll simply start a thread in this forum, lure ******** back, and beat him into agreeing with me, where-upon I will cite the thread as an authoritative source for my observation and successfully win an argument I've trolled in an aviation forum.
Bat it back all you want. If you're hitting the image of a Cricket ball tattooed to the ass of Barmy's Army, it's bound to hit you back, at some point. The point is that it's indelible. The only way it will cease to be indelible is when fundamental inadequacies stop being addressed over sporting matches.
Which raises the question, if there were a diminished risk of fan violence, what would the necessity of FIFA and South African Security be to do such a stellar job, in the first place? You don't really see that sort of behavior at the Olympics and most of their security apparatus is devoted to neutralizing potential external threat vectors.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Your posts are production gloss |
:) Oh, thank you! What a wonderful compli...
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
...with no hook. |
... :( Oh. Erm... Ouch.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
What I'm saying, and what you're failing to refute, is that IGK's complaints about vuvuzelas have nothing to do with bad organisation and everything to do with myopic cultural attitudes. |
I'll try that one on my girl-friend. She hates it when I whistle but I grew up in Texas where, in between beers and steers, it's customary to let out a high-pitched doodle of music. For years, I've felt put upon to adhere to her unreasonable exception to my creative outbursts and now, by framing it as part of my cultural heritage, I may finally have a plan to get one over on her.
Oh! I remember what she did. She told me, before I moved in, that she hates whistling. Now, if I had said, "Well, when I come, I'm going to whistle, anyway," FIFA... Er, I mean my girlfriend could have said, "well, maybe you need to move, elsewhere." In the end, I had to negotiate in order to host the World Cup... Er, I mean, live with my girlfriend.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
...with no hook. |
Really? On the Fourth of July? This has international incident written all over it! :whip: |
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| woscar |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
...try and bury that in high falutin' prose...
...Your posts are production gloss with no hook. |
You know, I always think this whenever I'm reading one of Eddie Zilker's posts. He just writes walls of text that have absolutely no coherence or meaning whatsoever. He's an even bigger faux intelectuallist than Kismet7. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by woscar
You know, I always think this whenever I'm reading one of Eddie Zilker's posts. He just writes walls of text that have absolutely no coherence or meaning whatsoever. He's an even bigger faux intelectuallist than Kismet7. |
:( Douche.
Edit: And it's intellectual, you dill-weed. Jesus-ing Christ. If you're going to call someone a pseudo-intellectual, know enough ing English to know that the ist suffix doesn't need to piggy-back a ing noun referring to a person. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Repeatedly established? In this thread, I suppose? You're maintaining that this thread has authoritatively diminished the association between Football, vuvuzelas and fan violence? |
Given you unfortunately decided to type "diminished" rather than, say, "dispelled" then I'll happily maintain that. Certainly the non-logic presented in this thread has been dispelled. If there is a relationship, it probably needs chaos theory to be calculated.
| quote: | | Which raises the question, if there were a diminished risk of fan violence, what would the necessity of FIFA and South African Security be to do such a stellar job, in the first place? |
I'm sorry? Do you think this is a debate about whether fan violence exists in footballing culture? Because I thought it was a debate about how well run and organised football is. If you're making the argument that violence is ingrained in footballing culture, then the comprehensive lack of violent incident in this tournament is surely even more convincing evidence that it has been an impeccably well organised tournament.
| quote: | | Oh! I remember what she did. She told me, before I moved in, that she hates whistling. Now, if I had said, "Well, when I come, I'm going to whistle, anyway," FIFA... Er, I mean my girlfriend could have said, "well, maybe you need to move, elsewhere." In the end, I had to negotiate in order to host the World Cup... Er, I mean, live with my girlfriend. |
If only this were a valid analogy. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
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Eh, my hearts not in it, anymore. Fun while it lasted, though. |
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| woscar |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
:( Douche.
Edit: And it's intellectual, you dill-weed. Jesus-ing Christ. If you're going to call someone a pseudo-intellectual, know enough ing English to know that the ist suffix doesn't need to piggy-back a ing noun referring to a person. |
My bad, I had written a different sentence using the term and then changed it to what it reads now, but didn't corrected it properly. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by woscar
didn't corrected |
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| woscar |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
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, I'm on fire today.
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by woscar
My bad, I had written a different sentence using the term and then changed it to what it reads now, but didn't corrected it properly. |
I typically reserve the quote color-coded proof-reading for people I don't respect. ;) |
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| woscar |
I couldn't find this before but I just tracked it down and will leave it here :p
| quote: | Originally posted by woscar
Brazil has the worst team of the past 20 years and Argentina, as pointed out above, has no midfield and is managed by a clueless headcase. So, I don't think either of them will get past the Quarterfinals. If they even get past the group stage, that is.
My favorites this year are Spain and The Netherlands, as usual. :p |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Absolute bull. I love how Dunga has thrown out the recognisable superstars for four years running now and won every trophy going in that time, and people still think Brazil have a terrible side. |
| quote: | Originally posted by verndogs
+1
Dunga knows what he's doing. He's not letting any marketing person or the press dictate who should be in his squad.
As for Argentina, I'm not even sure if they'll get out of their qualifying group. |
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