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FIFA World Cup 2010 in South Africa Discussion (pg. 94)
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by woscar
They're also good at overcoming 2 goal deficits by scoring 3 goals in the second half.
And let me remind you that they broke Spain's 35 game undefeated streak that lasted over 3 years with a Euro championship in between.
teams don't do that. |
weren't you the one that told me greece is , even though they one the euro? |
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| Scottaculous |
| quote: | Originally posted by enydo
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this is what a mugging in moongoose's backyard would look like |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| sorry, i dont know who irritates me more. Dempsey or ronaldo. I'm leaning towards dempsey more. He's a sneaky bastard. |
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| Renzo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
well.. it sure doesnt say anything when you only start winning a game when the other team has only 10 players. Not to mention they are playing with 10 players and still are more offensive! |
Spain lost to the United States to snap their streak, not Serbia.
Ffs. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by get nyce
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Such ing bull. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renzo
Spain lost to the United States to snap their streak, not Serbia.
Ffs. |
ok just making sure.
I know the US is a decent team. I just like ragging on them. They beat the hell out of egypt in the confederation cup. Where egypt is the best african team by far. Its unfortunate that they sucked out to algeria this time. Im just bitter that the US raped them in the confed :p
there i said it. But i'd like to see the US play like they played against slovenia. This was good decent soccer. None of that crap they pulled against england. |
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| Lira |
Also, I tend to imagine that no team from the former-Yugoslavia is as good as the (rather) good old Yugoslavian squad - and, should one side be strong, it would be as talented as the old team. And, in my head, that'd be Croatia.
I know this is very inaccurate and I don't know why I think this way. However, I decided to make a little thought experiment: if Brazil was to be divided in two halves, I wouldn't expect both parts to propel so many players to stardom, or most players would come from a very specific part of the country. So, in order to check the validity of my hypothesis I did divide Brazil in two "cultural" halves (Northern Brazil vs Southern Brazil),and I picked the capital as the divisory line. Here are the results:
Players from Northern Brazil in the current squad: 2
Players from Southern Brazil in the current squad: 19
States represented by at least 1 player in the current squad: 9/26 (34.6%)
Percentage of the Brazilian population living in these nine states: ~110 million people (~57%)
What can we infer from these numbers?
- My hometown alone contributed with as many players as all states Northwards (Lúcio and Kaká are the ones born here, by the way);
- Only half of the whole population can brag about having a player originary from their current place of residence;
- Not surprisingly, the poorer states may have failed to showcase its best talent, and that doesn't mean they don't have some raw material to contribute. In order to be a successful Brazilian superstar footballer, you need to come from one of those few states that are the national soccer powerhouses. Malcolm Gladwell would have a field day with this data!
- Croatia is apparently richer than Serbia, but has fewer inhabitants. Because a large population doesn't always guarantee a good collection of great players (as India and China clearly show), unless you've actually seen the players in the qualification stage, Serbia won't come up as a favourite in your head.
I wonder how the data fits the economical reality of the other countries playing in this World Cup. A National team is barely a national team, at least in our case, and I'm actually shocked by that. Heh. |
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| stren |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Also, I tend to imagine that no team from the former-Yugoslavia is as good as the (rather) good old Yugoslavian squad - and, should one side be strong, it would be as talented as the old team. And, in my head, that'd be Croatia.
I know this is very inaccurate and I don't know why I think this way. However, I decided to make a little thought experiment: if Brazil was to be divided in two halves, I wouldn't expect both parts to propel so many players to stardom, or most players would come from a very specific part of the country. So, in order to check the validity of my hypothesis I did divide Brazil in two "cultural" halves (Northern Brazil vs Southern Brazil),and I picked the capital as the divisory line. Here are the results:
Players from Northern Brazil in the current squad: 2
Players from Southern Brazil in the current squad: 19
States represented by at least 1 player in the current squad: 9/26 (34.6%)
Percentage of the Brazilian population living in these nine states: ~110 million people (~57%)
What can we infer from these numbers?
- My hometown alone contributed with as many players as all states Northwards (Lúcio and Kaká are the ones born here, by the way);
- Only half of the whole population can brag about having a player originary from their current place of residence;
- Not surprisingly, the poorer states may have failed to showcase its best talent, and that doesn't mean they don't have some raw material to contribute. In order to be a successful Brazilian superstar footballer, you need to come from one of those few states that are the national soccer powerhouses. Malcolm Gladwell would have a field day with this data!
- Croatia is apparently richer than Serbia, but has fewer inhabitants. Because a large population doesn't always guarantee a good collection of great players (as India and China clearly show), unless you've actually seen the players in the qualification stage, Serbia won't come up as a favourite in your head.
I wonder how the data fits the economical reality of the other countries playing in this World Cup. A National team is barely a national team, at least in o
ur case, and I'm actually shocked by that. Heh. homogenic yogurt |
exactly |
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| Groundhog Boy |
The US should never have put themselves in the situation that they were in today, but regardless, they got ED repeatedly during this game.
I'm not just talking about the called back goal, either. Findley is out for the next game because of a BS handball call that hit him in the face and there were numerous non-calls/undercarded calls. I'm half amazed the Slovenians got as many cards as they did given what else happened, as they seemed to have sucked off the ref quite well before everything got started.
There should have been a red card in the 60-70ish minute when the ball was played into the box and Slovenia just got a yellow for an obvious foul, which would have put the US up by a player. That said, we blew a good opportunity on that direct. There should have been one less Slovenian player on the field to half rape US players on the call everyone's talking about. The fact that we actually scored with 5 different players being bear-hugged is astonishing, even if it was called back.
The most egregious aspect is that FIFA actually said the call was on Edu, and not for offsides. Watch that play again and tell me where the that happened. He was the only player for the US not wrapped up in contact.
I hate bitching about refs, but today was full of absurdities, because we all know players act, take dives, and milk everything they can. None of that really happened in the US game today, at least at the critical points where it benefited the US.
The Germany game was atrocious when it came to reffing, too.
In the end, you just move on, hopefully the ref today doesn't seal the US fate, who are always underdogs in the tourney.
I will flat out say that if people wonder why soccer/futbol is not as popular in the US, they need only look as far as today's action to see it. When scoring is so low, in the biggest knock-out tourney every 4 years, and some -up like could jeopardize the US advancing, what do you expect? It sucks. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
When scoring is so low, in the biggest knock-out tourney every 4 years, and some -up like could jeopardize the US advancing, what do you expect? |
A bloody riot!!!
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
A bloody riot!!!
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Since I heard that the ref got accosted & hospitalized walking out of the stadium, I guess they had a pseudo-one. And from what I heard, it wasn't just US fans, but Africans that were pissed at how poorly he represented them. At least he wasn't murdered like Escobar. It's not that big of a deal, but it was absurd.
Can you imagine how a game reffed like Germany's or ours would have gone over in Brazil had it ended like it did, especially if they don't advance? |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Can you imagine how a game reffed like Germany's or ours would have gone over in Brazil had it ended like it did, especially if they don't advance? |
Yes. The police would have to step in to protect the physical integrity of the poor sap :D |
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