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FIFA World Cup 2010 in South Africa Discussion (pg. 72)
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
The vuvuzellas seem to be mixed into the broadcasts by ESPN/ABC to make the games seem more exciting or the crowd more into the game, a broadcasting trick? |
Totally :stongue:
Kismet, you make the world a fascinating place! |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Totally :stongue:
Kismet, you make the world a fascinating place! |
Why truncate or recontextualize what people say, and make no point towards other parts of what is said.
I could have gone deeper and pointed out how the vuvuzella noise manages to match what is going on in the game, ironically from the view of the television viewer and not the crowd that is there. Reaction times by crowds at the events themselves, are much slower to what is happening, unless its something notable. If you've been to any live games, there is far less dynamic range of noise(the differences in reactions), compared to what I hear in the broadcasts from vuvuzellas, from a rather unequipped rainy game crowd in the Italy vs Paraguay Game. Another thing that is ironic is that the the dynamic range albeit more dynamic, there is far less moments of little to no noise, which is typical of extended dull moments of games, but not when it comes to vuvuzellas lol. Its not my fault you suck at observation and the ability to form reasonings based on those observations.
Maybe you should go report back to ESPN/ABC and have them show more Vuvuzella toters in the crowd, and do a better job at selling it. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
I love how you deceptive folk always like to truncate or recontextualize what people say, and make no point towards other parts of what is said.
I could have gone deeper and pointed out how the vuvuzella noise manages to match what is going on in the game, ironically from the view of the television viewer. However, reaction times by crowds at the events themselves, are much slower to what is happening, unless its something notable. If you've been to any live games, there is far less dynamic range of noise(the differences in reactions), compared to what I hear in the broadcasts from vuvuzellas, from a rather unequipped crowd. Its not my fault you suck at observation and the ability to form reasonings based on those observations. |
The more you talk about it, the better it gets. Really, I'm not mocking you or anything, I just can't believe you've come up with this completely alternative view based on the very same things the rest of us is watching.
Honest, I'm not being ironic or sarcastic or what have you. I'm really impressed. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I just can't believe you've come up with this completely alternative view based on the very same things the rest of us is watching. |
seriously? :wtf: have you read a post by kismet before? |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
seriously? :wtf: have you read a post by kismet before? |
Yes, and I can't believe he says the things he says. It's like reading a character by Gabriel Garcia Marquez that came to life!
I love it! |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
The more you talk about it, the better it gets. Really, I'm not mocking you or anything, I just can't believe you've come up with this completely alternative view based on the very same things the rest of us is watching.
Honest, I'm not being ironic or sarcastic or what have you. I'm really impressed. |
I'm not coming up with anything without observation/analysis. Analysis based on the observation points i've mentioned. The thing that made it most obvious was the dynamic range, not the clear lack of actual people having those things in their mouths, outside of the focused small group crowd shots. On the bigger panned shots, you hardly see people with those things in their mouths relative to the noise, so where the hell is the noise coming from. The noise is overly dynamic, which means it has to be coming from many dense locations and from differing impressions of the game. Given the footage, the noise and crowd are hardly relative. |
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| noikeee |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
"Key player", "soul of the side" " "playmaker star" :rolleyes:
Gimme a ing break.
And who said washed up? I just said unknowns. If you'd ever been to Switzerland you'd know how little football matters in the grand scheme of things (unlike in spain and mexico). it is true btw. Seven of the starting line up only play in local swiss teams. Google it if you have to, then get over it. I love it when people try to build up their enemy's after a defeat. Do you think it mitigates your loss to them?
You sound like an utter twat trying to convince anyone that the swiss team or even league is superstar filled with amazing talent just because they beat you with style. The more you try to publicise the swiss team the more you prove it (i.e. you wouldn't have to if they were all that ing famous).
Don't get me wrong, was cheering for the swiss, but don't piss on my leg and tell me it's champagne. |
I'm not even a spanish fan you idiot, i'm portuguese. :stongue: Cheering for Spain would be like a brazilian cheering for Argentina, or an englishman cheering for Scotland.
Well done on the troll job, if you want to be seen as an ignorant idiot, be my guest. I'm just pointing out the swiss side (while certainly not one of the top 10 teams in this cup) are far far, faaaaaaaar from the amateurs you were trying to paint them as.
And yes I do know football is meaningless in Switzerland, so what, they can't have a good team because of that? It's the exact same thing as the US, they seem to have built a pretty good outsider team this year despite nobody in the US giving a . |
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| noikeee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
The vuvuzellas seem to be mixed into the broadcasts by ESPN/ABC to make the games seem more exciting or the crowd more into the game, a broadcasting trick? Throughout the Italy vs Paraguay game, I hardly saw anyone with those things in the crowd due to the rain, understandably people want to keep warm instead. Yet the same amount of annoying noise was coming through. That has an annoying frequency range and timbre, I watch the games with low volume because of it. What was interesting, ESPN/ABC said they would filter out some of the sound.
@ Gif :stongue: |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
I'm not coming up with anything without observation/analysis. Analysis based on the observation points i've mentioned. The thing that made it most obvious was the dynamic range, not the clear lack of actual people having those things in their mouths, outside of the focused small group crowd shots. On the bigger panned shots, you hardly see people with those things in their mouths relative to the noise, so where the hell is the noise coming from. The noise is overly dynamic, which means it has to be coming from many dense locations and from differing impressions of the game. Given the footage, the noise and crowd are hardly relative. |
:wtf: :wtf: :haha: :haha:
Dude, those things are REALLY ING LOUD and everywhere. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by noikeee
:wtf: :wtf: :haha: :haha:
Dude, those things are REALLY ING LOUD and everywhere. |
The thing is loud, but not everywhere. Given that its not everywhere, there is no reason for the dynamics of the noise we hear in the broadcasts. Another thing would be, how would you explain the lack of moments of silence or extended moments of less noise amplitude, its as if the crowd collectively has adhd, has no fatigue, while doing a rather tiring action of blowing air out of a horn type plastic. Then we can go deeper, when one side scores, the other teams fans should be somewhat neutralized and supressed of making noise. There is an emotional/psychological disconnect between the noise and the happenings in the games. There should be big shifts due to changes in scores, especially if there are larger amounts of crowd for one side over the other. The dynamics of the noise does not account for any of this, which makes it reasonable that some if not most of the vuvuzela noise in the broadcasts are mixed on top of the naturally occuring noise. Damn i'm a good observer/analyst :D |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
The thing is loud, but not everywhere. Given that its not everywhere, there is no reason for the dynamics of the noise we hear in the broadcasts. Another thing would be, how would you explain the lack of moments of silence or extended moments of less noise amplitude, its as if the crowd collectively has adhd, has no fatigue, while doing a rather tiring action of blowing air out of a horn type plastic. Then we can go deeper, when one side scores, the other teams fans should be somewhat neutralized and supressed of making noise. There is an emotional disconnect between the noise and the happenings in the games. There should be big shifts due to changes in scores, especially if there are larger amounts of crowd for one side over the other. The dynamics of the noise does not account for any of this, which makes it reasonable that some if not most of the vuvuzela noise in the broadcasts are mixed on top of the naturally occuring noise. Damn i'm a good analyst :D |
So good, hahaha. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
So good, hahaha. |
fake laughs for the fail. :whip:
BTW what i'm saying is open to debate/debunking. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
fake laughs for the fail. :whip: |
Come on man, surely you know you're reaching with that one. |
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