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FIFA World Cup 2010 in South Africa Discussion (pg. 132)
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leph555
the north americans, football has done well without them
ChemEnhanced
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Originally posted by woscar
As pointed out earlier (and repeatedly), why the would FIFA make rule changes to attract a few million rednecks at the expense of alienating a big chunk of its 3.5 billion fans all over the world? And in case you weren't paying attention, these changes have been attempted by Major League Soccer and failed. Miserably.



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The changes took place back in 1999.....at a time when the only people going to MLS games were immigrants from other countries. This is no longer the case.
ChemEnhanced
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I did state "if" gaining market share in North America is a priority then the game needs to be made more exciting for North American viewers. Surely to god you can think of someways the game could be made more exciting without alienating the existing audience, no? Are you trying to say there is absolutely nothing that can be changed that won't result in loss of more spectators then the potential gain? Honestly, I'm not trying to insult the game, nor am I suggesting it should try to cater to Americans; but, if it wants growth in the most valuable market available to it then it needs to. All I'm asking is do those of you who know and love the game see any way that could be done.

The only thing I've learned so far is that die hard soccer fans are thick headed traditionalists and they hate americans.
Moongoose
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Chemy has a point. IF FIFA wants to expand the game in North America (which stands to reason as it is the most valuable market in which the game is not a major spectator sport; therefore, offers the greatest opportunity for revenue growth) then it needs to make rule changes that will make the game more exciting to North Americans. The changes need not be drastic or at least as drastic as Chemy suggests; however, they do need to happen. Ultimately, if FIFA wants to penetrate the North American market they need to make the game more exciting by creating conditions that offer more scoring opportunities. While those who have grown up with the sport appreciate the defensive game and turnovers in mid-field the North American audience demands shots on net/scoring opportunities. I'm sure there is a way this could be done without making major changes and thereby alienating the existing audience; however, I'll admit that I know too little about the game to make any realistic suggestions. Perhaps it would be a better conversation if those of you who love the game actually give some suggestions on how it could be improved as opposed to taking the defensive position that the game is perfect and Fuck North Americans if they don't like it... as that will benefit no one.



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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
The only thing I've learned so far is that die hard soccer fans are thick headed traditionalists and they hate americans.




Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by Moongoose


Really, what did I post that was stupid? Was it the suggestion that the game can be improved or that North America was an important growth market for FIFA?
G-Con
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Really, what did I post that was stupid? Was it the suggestion that the game can be improved or that North America was an important growth market for FIFA?


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Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by G-Con
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Interesting... you do realize that the US represents more then 50% of the global sports revenue, right? Do you honestly thing FIFA doesn't want a bigger slice of that pie?

(note, this is not American arrogance talking; rather, economics)
Fledz
quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Chemy has a point. IF FIFA wants to expand the game in North America (which stands to reason as it is the most valuable market in which the game is not a major spectator sport; therefore, offers the greatest opportunity for revenue growth) then it needs to make rule changes that will make the game more exciting to North Americans. The changes need not be drastic or at least as drastic as Chemy suggests; however, they do need to happen. Ultimately, if FIFA wants to penetrate the North American market they need to make the game more exciting by creating conditions that offer more scoring opportunities. While those who have grown up with the sport appreciate the defensive game and turnovers in mid-field the North American audience demands shots on net/scoring opportunities. I'm sure there is a way this could be done without making major changes and thereby alienating the existing audience; however, I'll admit that I know too little about the game to make any realistic suggestions. Perhaps it would be a better conversation if those of you who love the game actually give some suggestions on how it could be improved as opposed to taking the defensive position that the game is perfect and Fuck North Americans if they don't like it... as that will benefit no one.

Jesus ing Christ on a bike :rolleyes:

I always considered you to be a rather intelligent individual but you're not doing yourself any favours here, unless you've become a really good troll.
leph555
quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Interesting... you do realize that the US represents more then 50% of the global sports revenue, right? Do you honestly thing FIFA doesn't want a bigger slice of that pie?

(note, this is not American arrogance talking; rather, economics)


But yet Fifa was always fine without the US
djhaziel
quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Interesting... you do realize that the US represents more then 50% of the global sports revenue, right? Do you honestly thing FIFA doesn't want a bigger slice of that pie?

(note, this is not American arrogance talking; rather, economics)


I find this hard to believe, 50% ????... eventhough the idea of changing a sport just to make it more appealing for americans is whack

The best attempt to introduce football to USA was done in 1994 by giving them the chance to host the world cup . I'm sure it did its job but on the other hand you have to deal with the american idisioncracy in which quantity instead of quality is always a must.... they just want more points , The cream of america ... is rich and thick :stongue:

Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by Fledz
Jesus ing Christ on a bike :rolleyes:

I always considered you to be a rather intelligent individual but you're not doing yourself any favours here, unless you've become a really good troll.


I honestly don't get it. I'm just asking a question.
Ghost Raver
One thing I'd like to have "changed", or more like see improved, is refereeing and instant replays. It would be nice to see one more referee added to the game and make him spend time in front of some monitor outside the field. Then, if some situation isn't clear and the referee can't make a clear judgement right away, he'll just ask the added referee for his opinion after he has watched the replay. That won't take much time and it'll give referees a better chance to judge the game properly.
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