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WIP thread (DJRYAN now allowed to post tracks) (pg. 215)
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| AlphaStarred |
Not to sound like a dick, but what was the point of you getting all that hardware (e.g. TR-8, System 1, Novation Bass Station) and not using a single one for your new WIP? :conf:
Also, instead of posting a WIP immediately after you've "added everything together real quick," why not take some time with your track and post the WIP when you feel like you've done everything you could with it, but are unsure of how to proceed, etc.?
Regarding your track, it sounds aight in the beginning, but I'm not crazy about that synth that comes in at around 1:28, but perhaps this is just a personal preference. I do like the bass, and I'm not sure if those "robotic" samples should be used throughout the entirety of the track/WIP you posted. |
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| Vernon Wanderer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Innocence Lost
Thanks for your feedback man, yeah I just added everything together real quick because I'm native to Cubase and its def hard for me to create a interesting journey at the beginning, so thanks for pointing that out. Can you tell me what needs to done with my mixdown so it isn't dry? not to be blunt can you u be alittle more specific, thanks btw. |
Well, IMO both the kick and bass are too loud for starters, also, the bass sounds muddy to me, it would require finding the problem frequencies via extreme narrow eq boosting and then cutting them when found. Highs need to be brought up(also a good thing is to have a very slight room reverb on them in the background of the drums, but now on the second listed it sounds like you already have that?) and the clap needs some eq boost in the higher register to make it more crisp, and maybe bring it up a little.
Also, happy holidays to you all :) |
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| evo8 |
| thanks for comments all! @Vernon, its a tricky one with the kick but i might raise it a bit more, dont want it taking too much focus! |
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| Vernon Wanderer |
| Thats cool as it is totally subjective and doesn't define the track too much. But to clarify I was thinking about giving it an eq boost in the very low end to give it a more solid body, nothing dramatic. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vernon Wanderer
My only wish would be to make the kickdrum more focused/solid. I really hope you will make a full track out of it. |
I agree, maybe make the kick a little more boomy? It's a bit in the background. As OP said, perhaps just raise it a bit more. Otherwise, great proggy stuff - could totally see this in a J00f set. :) |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by evo8
something new from me
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One question -do you have any bass line in this WIP? |
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| Innocence Lost |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vernon Wanderer
Well, IMO both the kick and bass are too loud for starters, also, the bass sounds muddy to me, it would require finding the problem frequencies via extreme narrow eq boosting and then cutting them when found. Highs need to be brought up(also a good thing is to have a very slight room reverb on them in the background of the drums, but now on the second listed it sounds like you already have that?) and the clap needs some eq boost in the higher register to make it more crisp, and maybe bring it up a little.
Also, happy holidays to you all :) |
Thanks, will focus more on those necessary frequencies to cut and boost. Here's the longer version as promised.
Sorry If didn't give my all with hardware but TR-8 and System1 isn't compatible via bootcamp. Next wip will be only hardware for sure. |
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| JEO |
Paulino.. I can't pinpoint exactly what, but something in your tracks always sounds awkward to me - not the mix though, congrats on that. There's a serious lack of actual content in your tracks that just makes me cringe every time I hear the same bassline, plucked melodies and random growling effects in something you made. They can work, yes, but I think you just need to put a little more effort and thought into them for them to work. Now it's the same lousy effects repeating for that whole three minutes.
Maybe it's my end that's ed, but I sometimes feel like you've got antlers for ears or something. There's nothing of interest in the track, and the weird "robot" sounds mentioned earlier make me shiver as they very much remind me of someone scratching a blackboard. And does 2:37 sound very awkward to anyone else? Maybe you forget the key you were in on the way to your keyboard on the other side of the room?
I don't want to patronize, but from now on I'd suggest you stop buying all that "gear" and arguing about your desk; focus on content. Your mixdowns aren't worth crap if your content is as stale as it is right now. My mate recorded the inside of his fridge with his 10 euro headset for half a minute, stretched the sample and added reverb. I could listen to that stuff for hours. Your WIP, on the other hand, I could barely listen till the end. Your situation is barely comparable to his, yet he made something much, much more interesting with a headset and Audacity.
*kick*
*kick*
*kick*
*kick*
*growwwl*
*plucked melody*
*nails on a blackboard*
*growwwl*
*kick*
*kick*
*kick*
*kick*
Don't consider this an insult, but just my opinion on what I would do if I had half the time, hardware, and software that you have to put on music. You remind me of that Italian guy that used to post here (DJ something) who tried perfecting his basslines for eons. Like practising for years to drill exactly the same kind of hole everyone else drills. Don't become him.
And hey - everybody else here might love it and think it's the best track in the world, I just don't like it too much. Don't take it to heart, just consider focusing on the content for a change. |
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| Innocence Lost |
| Thanks for your input..sigh I didn't really know those one shot robotic samples were working or not. I guess I'll take them off and worry more about content. |
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| JEO |
| Glad you can take the input :thepirate |
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| Innocence Lost |
| quote: | Originally posted by JEO
Glad you can take the input :thepirate |
Yeah thanks bro, I'll make one more ITB wip and focus on what everyone is telling me, for example; content, cuts and boosts, groove and all that. It feels like i'm not ready for full hardware yet. You're also right about me perfecting basslines, its addicting. I'm Always trying to create the best structure with my basses to make a good journey but it seems i'm failing. |
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| Vernon Wanderer |
Do you automate stuff? It is key to adding a sense of progression to a track. Automate the volume of cymbals for example, over a longer period of time (8 bars minimum) add very slight panning automation, subtly automate the cutoffs, reverbs, all those little things to create a better flow.
Also, polyphonic chord progressions(not the voice note offset within synths, but actual synth global notes in piano roll, corresponding to the key you're working in) can add that magic, harmonically rich sound of interest to human ears. Did you study different types of chords and scales/modes? it is really useful knowledge, an absolute must for a producer ALONG with the technical knowledge you usually find around these forums.
I don't know what you already know, this is just general advice useful to anyone, even if only as a reminder. |
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