Thank you! Feedback/nitpicking always appreciated :). Only way to improve tbh.
If I'm interpreting the part about the bass correctly...Add more separation into the bass notes to add additional chug/movement?
Did play around with that a little bit, but the addition of the subby pad you can hear in the first 30sec was the result of going in the opposite direction for more of a full/droney bass-line with chugs for accent.
Could try and add in a little more punctuation to the bass itself, but I really want that "warm-blanket-of-bass" kinda feel.
After further review...Sub is still probably a scoche heavy, and could do with some further tightening up...But I personally feel it's right there in the ball-park this time, and I'll deal with it towards the end.
Also...To take what you said a different way...some removal of 1 or 2 of the 1/8th notes really had quite a big impact on the movement as well. Bit of swing added, and I think I dig it even more now
SystematicX1
Alright...second go around. I don't know about how I am feeling after the changes. I feel like I may have lost something and contemplating shortening it. I will say this mix is better but again, I feel something is lost in the dynamic range.
Originally posted by SystematicX1
Alright...second go around. I don't know about how I am feeling after the changes. I feel like I may have lost something and contemplating shortening it. I will say this mix is better but again, I feel something is lost in the dynamic range.
Gonna be rich coming from me...but...I think there's too much bass in this particular mix...more specifically, sub-bass.
Likely the sub overworking any final compression / eating up your headroom/dynamics.
Can really hear it at 0:51. Upper-midrange plucks sound uncomfortably compressed.
As for nitpicking...Sub itself has some funkyness from what I can hear...1:08 on the upper C, there's some unpleasant mid-range resonance, and then the bass practically disappears when it octaves down...Guessing it's near, or below the 20hz mark...as even my 11" sub (which I've response tested down to 11hz) struggled a little to play that note. A trick I've resorted to recently for low-low bass, is to run a separate, 1 osc. pure sine-wave, dedicated to that one low note. You're not really getting much detail in that frequency range anyhow...
Still think the arrangement sounds natural...But, ye gotta go with your own gut feelings and intuition regardless of what anyone says I think.
Last bit of nit-pickery is some funky-ness with the vocals starting @ ~2:28. Seems like the samples are cutting each-other off, and the lyrical phrases aren't being concisely finished / border on timing error. Can finish her phra-if you can find the time.
Do enjoy your DnB tracks though! Sorry if that all seems overly critical...Your compositions and ideas from what I've heard are always on point. I wouldn't try to second guess yourself or over-analyze too much...Ultimately, it's gotta sit right with you.
Here's hoping you can get it to a place *you* are happy with :)
SystematicX1
quote:
Originally posted by theterran
Gonna be rich coming from me...but...I think there's too much bass in this particular mix...more specifically, sub-bass.
Likely the sub overworking any final compression / eating up your headroom/dynamics.
Can really hear it at 0:51. Upper-midrange plucks sound uncomfortably compressed.
As for nitpicking...Sub itself has some funkyness from what I can hear...1:08 on the upper C, there's some unpleasant mid-range resonance, and then the bass practically disappears when it octaves down...Guessing it's near, or below the 20hz mark...as even my 11" sub (which I've response tested down to 11hz) struggled a little to play that note. A trick I've resorted to recently for low-low bass, is to run a separate, 1 osc. pure sine-wave, dedicated to that one low note. You're not really getting much detail in that frequency range anyhow...
Still think the arrangement sounds natural...But, ye gotta go with your own gut feelings and intuition regardless of what anyone says I think.
Last bit of nit-pickery is some funky-ness with the vocals starting @ ~2:28. Seems like the samples are cutting each-other off, and the lyrical phrases aren't being concisely finished / border on timing error. Can finish her phra-if you can find the time.
Do enjoy your DnB tracks though! Sorry if that all seems overly critical...Your compositions and ideas from what I've heard are always on point. I wouldn't try to second guess yourself or over-analyze too much...Ultimately, it's gotta sit right with you.
Here's hoping you can get it to a place *you* are happy with :)
Thanks for that man...I just re upp'd a new version and you were spot on and I did a big adjustment with a saturation plug I had on one of the mid bass channels.
Vocal's got a clean up to, spot on again. Yea, this is why we nit pick...lmao Thnx!
*note the cleanup exposed some cut spots on where I chopped the vox...on second listening, I will need to clean that up
theterran
After some concentrated effort...an intro!
Feeling tentatively good about this tune...And I feel no sense of writer's block as of yet...
Also managed to fix the stabs woohoo. Don't have to start over from init...or scrap the whole thing altogether!
Oh, and youtube added the crackle at the start...might need to give it a few ms of silence or something...not sure why it does that sometimes -_-
SystematicX1
quote:
Originally posted by theterran
After some concentrated effort...an intro!
Feeling tentatively good about this tune...And I feel no sense of writer's block as of yet...
Also managed to fix the stabs woohoo. Don't have to start over from init...or scrap the whole thing altogether!
Oh, and youtube added the crackle at the start...might need to give it a few ms of silence or something...not sure why it does that sometimes -_-
Ain't it the best feeling when tracks just move the way you want them and flow how you want it to.
Dig the groove. Dig the arp....and the back gated vox flows really nice. Like how you use that filter to in/out the movement and accentuates the arp.
IF I had anything to add I would say maybe using a little ducking on that bassline, could give it some breathing in/outs. A heavy attacked side chain could possibly really change how it breathes.
theterran
quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
Ain't it the best feeling when tracks just move the way you want them and flow how you want it to.
Dig the groove. Dig the arp....and the back gated vox flows really nice. Like how you use that filter to in/out the movement and accentuates the arp.
IF I had anything to add I would say maybe using a little ducking on that bassline, could give it some breathing in/outs. A heavy attacked side chain could possibly really change how it breathes.
Thanks for the feedback! I'll definitely be giving the low end a more thorough pass as it comes to the final mix-down. I plan on really dialing everything in for this one.
SystematicX1
This , more than likely won't see the light of day. Who knows...maybe someday. This has to be completed by tomorrow and throwing this out as a final pre production bounce before it goes to mix.
Might be one or two elemental adds but for the most part...in form, this is it.
Not sure if anyone will catch it before it goes down but if you had thoughts, I would love to get it.
Originally posted by SystematicX1
This , more than likely won't see the light of day. Who knows...maybe someday. This has to be completed by tomorrow and throwing this out as a final pre production bounce before it goes to mix.
Might be one or two elemental adds but for the most part...in form, this is it.
Not sure if anyone will catch it before it goes down but if you had thoughts, I would love to get it.
Suppose up front...Not sure what "going to mix" entails...Is this a foundation for something else? Is someone else going to mix/master this?
Feedback at face value : Intro synth strings seemed a bit ehhh. Piano is nice. Like the bubbly synths underneath at 0:40 and am digging the tone more after this point.
Like that effect at 1:06.
False buildups are always fun.
Good sound to me 1:30...Sounds nice, clean, crisp and punchy. Happily turned up volume. Mix sounds all good on my setup :).
Musical nitpicking : Melodic line at 1:40 seems a little...bland, I suppose. *Should* be a little more interesting than it is imo, as the song kinda builds into it...ngl, felt a little let down here...B/A, C#/A...repeat...meh. Almost gets interesting when it travels down, which I felt was the more interesting path for it to go... but then it makes a u-turn back up. Line that follows would seem more ok, if line that preceded it was a little more interesting musically.
Does kinda lack something to tie everything together though...Maybe vocals? Are vocals being added to this? Some main-line melodic phrasing/elements to seal the deal...Synth at 2:14 still not really doin' it for me personally, but eh...chalk it up to personal taste.
Like the complex sequence/blend of sounds going into 2:40.
Overall, sounds good though. Best of luck! And of course, it's not like I'm putting out any big hits...so... grain of salt and all that...
SystematicX1
quote:
Originally posted by theterran
Suppose up front...Not sure what "going to mix" entails...Is this a foundation for something else? Is someone else going to mix/master this?
Feedback at face value : Intro synth strings seemed a bit ehhh. Piano is nice. Like the bubbly synths underneath at 0:40 and am digging the tone more after this point.
Like that effect at 1:06.
False buildups are always fun.
Good sound to me 1:30...Sounds nice, clean, crisp and punchy. Happily turned up volume. Mix sounds all good on my setup :).
Musical nitpicking : Melodic line at 1:40 seems a little...bland, I suppose. *Should* be a little more interesting than it is imo, as the song kinda builds into it...ngl, felt a little let down here...B/A, C#/A...repeat...meh. Almost gets interesting when it travels down, which I felt was the more interesting path for it to go... but then it makes a u-turn back up. Line that follows would seem more ok, if line that preceded it was a little more interesting musically.
Does kinda lack something to tie everything together though...Maybe vocals? Are vocals being added to this? Some main-line melodic phrasing/elements to seal the deal...Synth at 2:14 still not really doin' it for me personally, but eh...chalk it up to personal taste.
Like the complex sequence/blend of sounds going into 2:40.
Overall, sounds good though. Best of luck! And of course, it's not like I'm putting out any big hits...so... grain of salt and all that...
So, yea this cut isn't mixed and basically I get it set how I want everything to sit in the mix, and then I start the cuts to -3 db for final and Mastering following up.
In agreement with the tonality and structure of that mid. As it stands it is 5 different notch filters all working about 10 different oscillator's lol. Overkill? lol I'm honestly over it...battled that the most
With this particular track it is a rather personal one with some emotional ties. Not going to lie, it's for someone and that is probably where it will stay.
Thanks for pickins ,appreciate that!
SystematicX1
Early stages, rough cut. No mix (cut to -3 db so turn up the volume). Pretty much still conceptual with minimal arrangement
Originally posted by SystematicX1
Early stages, rough cut. No mix (cut to -3 db so turn up the volume). Pretty much still conceptual with minimal arrangement
