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WIP thread (DJRYAN now allowed to post tracks) (pg. 434)
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by evo8
did you tweak the bassline? made a big difference and the melodies are more prominent now, im starting to like it! |
Yeah, some adjustment was made to this bass line (levels and EQ), didn't like the way this bass sounded, also did some small tweaks to kick and drums plus much large changes to basic melody which I decided to expend extensively (from 3 chord to 8 in the break area for more catchy melancholic effect). Just to finish my tweaks I decided to control a bit better sidechain attack and release timing on all of my instrument to sink to much higher degree this interplay between plucks and arps - good ear and thanks Paul.
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| chris marsh |
| quote: | Originally posted by evo8
agree with Mr Mystery, its missing some kind of motif or maybe some vocals would actually work
listening again i hear some kind of lead around the 4 min mark, i would bring this forward and develop a little more or something, also i would introduce it a lot earlier
also around 3:40 there is a cool kind of sound that you could maintain, needs to brought forward also
my 2c |
cheers for your ears:) yep its a difficult one because like i said i want it to be minimal and work with just the drums and bass, which i find quite a challenge. the last few tracks i did had full vocals/quite musical and i want to move away from that
the lead is introduced at the intro then doesn't come back until the break, im happy with that basic arrangement. Im just working on using vocal snippets here and there and incidental fx, but its quite difficult to make things fit and im finding with this one less is more. spent ours today trying stuff out and binned it all
id like to get it finished and move on to the next one with what i have learnt rather than changing anything too drastic
it may be that the bass on its own isn't quite "hooky" enough but next time i can work on that |
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| chris marsh |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceLover007
Thanks Chris for your lengthy respond, appreciate man - so to answer your question about my headphones, yes I only had to use headphones and they are new to me so don't have good feel for them yet (will take some time), as far as dry sound I meant that there is nothing on master channel - also agree with you on the face that drums need to have more punch and some drive to it as right now they are a bit to static and not moving enough for me - good catch.
I decided to add a bit more melodic development to this WIP:
Darek |
really liking the new break down section dude |
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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceLover007
Darek |
Like this mate
You could really add to the journey by throwing in some different chords on the arp after say a minute in, to surprise and uplift listeners.
I like the drums etc myself, but yeh just a little variation here n there. Nice vocal! |
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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by Evolve140
Word, if I go back to that version I will give it a shot! I just decided on a totally different re-work though. Hopefully it sounds better, I did tweak the sound/melody though. :)
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This could be good.
The melodic grip is strong.
BUT, sound choices for me personally are not good at all. Big twanging guitar and the distorted guitar sound are just so boring IM like GM sounds of a Yamaha keyboard.
If you change up the sound and make it a bit more Ibiza - Head Kandi smooth this is a great track
IMO lol |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by chris marsh
cheers for your ears:) yep its a difficult one because like i said i want it to be minimal and work with just the drums and bass, which i find quite a challenge. the last few tracks i did had full vocals/quite musical and i want to move away from that
the lead is introduced at the intro then doesn't come back until the break, im happy with that basic arrangement. Im just working on using vocal snippets here and there and incidental fx, but its quite difficult to make things fit and im finding with this one less is more. spent ours today trying stuff out and binned it all
id like to get it finished and move on to the next one with what i have learnt rather than changing anything too drastic
it may be that the bass on its own isn't quite "hooky" enough but next time i can work on that |
totally hear you, i try to maintain as much space in my tracks as I can - the difficulty then becomes the fact that your existing parts and groove need to be interesting enough to carry the track on its own, not easy |
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| chris marsh |
| quote: | Originally posted by evo8
totally hear you, i try to maintain as much space in my tracks as I can - the difficulty then becomes the fact that your existing parts and groove need to be interesting enough to carry the track on its own, not easy |
yes for sure. my last few tracks the bass was just underpinning some musical stuff and vocals on top - so its a totally different ball game. i really want to crack this whole "mid bass" deal but its been bloody hard!
i think yo may be right though and i might keep the pluck/lead in at a very low level the whole way through just to compliment the bass. theres no rules afterall.......
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i will spend some more time on this rather than just bang it out and finish it even if it takes a few extra weeks. did you get that tune that was a bit low on bass sorted? that was wicked m8 |
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| evo8 |
hi, please comment on the most recent track in the thread, as per the the thread rules, thanks |
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| djmd31 |
Thanks Chris for your lengthy respond, appreciate man - so to answer your question about my headphones, yes I only had to use headphones and they are new to me so don't have good feel for them yet (will take some time), as far as dry sound I meant that there is nothing on master channel - also agree with you on the face that drums need to have more punch and some drive to it as right now they are a bit to static and not moving enough for me - good catch.
I decided to add a bit more melodic development to this WIP:
Darek [/QUOTE]
I think this sounds ok, I think the Vocals might be a little loud, and I would add some more delay and reverb to them.
It does have a solid groove, but I feel there is nothing that grabs my attention if you know what I mean. Arp melody is good! |
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| chris marsh |
really nice tune and i like the concept, but i think the mix is a bit off. doesnt sound like anything is missing to me aside from that. I really like all the synths and music sounds great. IMO if you got the mix right it would be a cracker
are you referencing with a similar pro track in your arrangement when mixing? thats always helpful. Like im no trance expert, and i only ever really did one trance track (its in me sig) but if I A/B the too you can hear a significant difference in the mix. So if you A/B yours with a pro its going to fall flat mix wise
to me the kick doesnt sound quite right, pitched slightly too high perhaps, it just doesnt seem to quite have the satisfying thud int he lows id expect
also he high hats seem a little harsh, but also dont seem to fill out the high end
IMO of course.... |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by djmd31
I think this sounds ok, I think the Vocals might be a little loud, and I would add some more delay and reverb to them.
It does have a solid groove, but I feel there is nothing that grabs my attention if you know what I mean. Arp melody is good! |
Thanks djmd31 for your time and comment - appreciate. As far as your comment about "not garbing my attention", I think that each of as are looking for different things in the music to grab their attention and for me is all about quality of music production and melodic journey in it. What you were listening so far was a piece of my entire production which included an intro and usually (in any production) this part is not as attractive as potentially rest of the track but I hope that when I decided to finish it you going to like it :)
Thanks man,
Darek |
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