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| theterran |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
2 versions of the same concept I've been working on this weekend. Concepts switch around the 30s mark. I want the first clip to sound as crispy as the second, still need to work on that. Will remove the gentle background pad in the second half as it doesn't work well enough for me. |
Big fan of synthwave/retrowave kinda stuff. Sound palette definitely ticks those boxes.
Without context as to the two halves...
I like the 2nd half. First half seems a bit like an outtro to me...
As to the 2nd half...Definitely think the pad actually fits the tone there, though it kinda depends on what vibe you're driving towards. Purposefully dated sounds can be nice for the retro-wave type stuff.
Electric bass guitar might be pretty cool for the low-end to round out the vibe. Seems like 1 last melodic ingredient is needed to really take it somewhere, perhaps. |
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| theterran |
Go-go old-school vibes in 2026!
Still a basic conceptual sketch...but some real potential perhaps!
And this is one of the first I feel sounds good without using my master-bus as a crutch. Just a basic limiter on this one...
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by theterran
Go-go old-school vibes in 2026!
Still a basic conceptual sketch...but some real potential perhaps!
And this is one of the first I feel sounds good without using my master-bus as a crutch. Just a basic limiter on this one...
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This oldschool stuff makes me think of https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/ Their VST emulators are crazy for the Virus, Nord and JP8000. They literally reconstruct the chips in the software. Look up some video's. Unlike many emulators for this one its impossible to tell the difference.
The beginning the bassline seems a bit much. Maybe use some waveshaper to make it filter out/fade out every 16th note for a bit cleaner sound? The sounds that come in at 16sec are great. They lift the hole thing up. The mini-break at 32s could be one of those epic longer breaks if you ask me. Introduce the synths, filter them down/out, with snareroll and bring back the beat with synths & open filters :D. I'm already hearing it in my mind.
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I've posted this one many moons ago and revisited it.
My ears are tired so I hope the mix is okay. Still figuring out how to wrap it up. Overall I'm happy with whats going on, maybe I want to extend the break a bit at the 1:40 mark and do more with the piano and maybe a lowpassed beat. I love the emotion the piano evokes (for me) but it I recognize it feels somewhat out of place with the rest of the track. I'm not sure how to solve that yet.
I can't help myself but wonder how it would sound with a vocalist.
Note: Soundcloud makes the hats a lot more flangy than they are. There's quite some high end sparkly stuff going on which you can hear in the break at 1:40 mark. MP3 compression really has a hard time with it. I've enabled direct downloads so you can hear the difference if you want to. |
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| theterran |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
This oldschool stuff makes me think of https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/ Their VST emulators are crazy for the Virus, Nord and JP8000. They literally reconstruct the chips in the software. Look up some video's. Unlike many emulators for this one its impossible to tell the difference.
The beginning the bassline seems a bit much. Maybe use some waveshaper to make it filter out/fade out every 16th note for a bit cleaner sound? The sounds that come in at 16sec are great. They lift the hole thing up. The mini-break at 32s could be one of those epic longer breaks if you ask me. Introduce the synths, filter them down/out, with snareroll and bring back the beat with synths & open filters :D. I'm already hearing it in my mind. |
Thanks man. I'll have to check out those VST emulators. Been mainly sticking to Sylenth1, Serum, and oldschool free-ware nexus stuff to fill in, but I'm def. into broadening the sound palette.
-Edit- And they're free?! What?! Figuring out how to download these now...amazing...And yes, you can definitely hear the difference in depth and richness...I always wanted a JP-8000, but was always too poor.
Appreciate the feedback...I'll look into dialing the bass in better once I go for final mix-down, and I finally have a separate computer setup with FL studio hooked into my sub-bass reference for an easier time of it. This was just, a very rough outline of ideas as they formed...throwing sounds together and such.
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| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
I've posted this one many moons ago and revisited it.
My ears are tired so I hope the mix is okay. Still figuring out how to wrap it up. Overall I'm happy with whats going on, maybe I want to extend the break a bit at the 1:40 mark and do more with the piano and maybe a lowpassed beat. I love the emotion the piano evokes (for me) but it I recognize it feels somewhat out of place with the rest of the track. I'm not sure how to solve that yet.
I can't help myself but wonder how it would sound with a vocalist.
Note: Soundcloud makes the hats a lot more flangy than they are. There's quite some high end sparkly stuff going on which you can hear in the break at 1:40 mark. MP3 compression really has a hard time with it. I've enabled direct downloads so you can hear the difference if you want to. |
Love it, sounds great. Kick hits pretty deep eh? Based on what you said, dunno if the center o-hat is supposed to be as crunchy as it is, but I kinda like that too.
Vocals would definitely fit...But I don't think them necessary. Stands on it's own just find as it's own laid back thing.
Enjoyed all the various back-ground synths coming and going. Just a nice laid back tune to vibe to...
Sounds like it wanted to maybe keep going with that melodic bit at the 2:40 mark...Was kinda surprised that it ended there / it seemed rather abrupt...
Maybe I'm dumb, but I couldn't find any option to download for A/B comparison...Though, I'm already aware of what soundcloud does to the high end, as it *really* does not like anything having to do with hi-hats or supersaws in-particular.
Pretty sure for standard users it converts to 128kbps .mp3...Which is obviously terrible for any high-end. Having the original file before upload in 16-bit 48khz .wav seems to help with this a little. |
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| SystematicX1 |
What's Up !!! Long time no hearz! Good to see you guys still kickin and makin rydims =OP
Lez see herez. Who we gots to critique!
| quote: | Originally posted by theterran
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T.A. Doin some of that Old School I see =O)
That Arp. Love how it opens up and I tend to agree with you that the Intro sounds a bit more like an outro however; that is because you put the kick in. Take that Kick out and it's easier to imagine how you can potentially use that arp to open the track; or at the very least whatever you are trying to introduce. Because that Arp is the one piece that is causing the most movement which gains the most attention
Love that you are still bringing it ma man!
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Story!!
This cut is Electronic's version of "Yacht Rock". The vibe man...
Nailed it!
I see a Boat with woman in bikini's sipping champagne off the coast of Ibiza at sundown.
Good to see you are still rollin man!
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Been trying to keep up too. But dare I say I have been through another kind of transition as well musically. Dare I say ..Pop? ::shrugs::
And this is crafted around being a Vox track. It needs a Female voice and I have a specific Melody for the chorus that requires a specific tone I am searching for. Haven't found it; yet
https://soundcloud.com/systematicx1...=social_sharing
and still working this but she's close. Very close
https://soundcloud.com/systematicx1...=social_sharing |
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| theterran |
So I looked into the usual suspects and those emulators...Took a little fiddling to get 'em to work, but I must say, they're really quite great...especially the JP-8000 and Virus emulators. I honestly feel like some genuine synth/bass/pad patches could get the creative juices flowing.
The sound is just so juicy...really good resonance / detune...
Because I have fun sound-matching...did a little quick n' dirty arrangement to see how close I could get tonally/synthwise to one of my old-time fav's. (just kinda chucked some percs in there too, cuz why not)
Everything was done from scratch with the JE-8086. Afaik, a real JP-8000 was used in the original.
Honestly, I feel like it's at least 80-90% there with minimal effort...though there's some raspy-ness in the original lead-synth I couldn't seem to coax out...and I couldn't quite get the same chunky/squat bass the original has...Gonna sound a little more antiseptic on modern DAW/hardware as well.
-Edit- Didn't think to mono the lead, which did the trick and got it the rest of the way there, I think...
Close enough for, an hour of putsing around though, eh? Should be fun seeing what kinda juicy pads/basses I can get out of it.
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| theterran |
Eh well, go with the flow as they say.
I like both tracks. First one was quite appealing, and I liked the chilled out vibe. Wet thumpy kick I liked. Seems like a lot of attention to detail in this one...curious as to how much is your content and how much is stem/sample. Good melody interplay though, and it's got a definite vibe for sure. Slow progression was nice, almost wish it kept going...but alas things must come to an end sometime.
Second one is cool too. I'm a big fan of techy dnb and I like the vocals in this one.
Only nitpick is that I was wishing the mid-range "hi-hats" were a little tighter rhythmically...for some reason to me, the timing just doesn't seem quite as crisp as it could be...though I find it hard to try and explain why/how.
Else, it's good stuff man.
Also, added an SMSL D200 to the setup...was definitely missing out not having at least an entry-grade level DAC...but you know, money, and stuff...S'pose the test will be to see if it'll actually translate into better mixes moving forward... |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by theterran
So I looked into the usual suspects and those emulators...Took a little fiddling to get 'em to work, but I must say, they're really quite great...especially the JP-8000 and Virus emulators. I honestly feel like some genuine synth/bass/pad patches could get the creative juices flowing.
The sound is just so juicy...really good resonance / detune...
Because I have fun sound-matching...did a little quick n' dirty arrangement to see how close I could get tonally/synthwise to one of my old-time fav's. (just kinda chucked some percs in there too, cuz why not)
Everything was done from scratch with the JE-8086. Afaik, a real JP-8000 was used in the original.
Honestly, I feel like it's at least 80-90% there with minimal effort...though there's some raspy-ness in the original lead-synth I couldn't seem to coax out...and I couldn't quite get the same chunky/squat bass the original has...Gonna sound a little more antiseptic on modern DAW/hardware as well.
-Edit- Didn't think to mono the lead, which did the trick and got it the rest of the way there, I think...
Close enough for, an hour of putsing around though, eh? Should be fun seeing what kinda juicy pads/basses I can get out of it.
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Really cool! Glad you picked up on the synths, like you said, a bit hard to set up because you need to find the OS but they're absolutely worth it. Your clip brings me back to the old days. What a legendary tune. :) |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by SystematicX1
Story!!
This cut is Electronic's version of "Yacht Rock". The vibe man...
Nailed it!
I see a Boat with woman in bikini's sipping champagne off the coast of Ibiza at sundown.
Good to see you are still rollin man!
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Thank you so much for the kind words! Vocals would carry the thing a whole new level in my opinion. I still need to embed the piano in the mix a bit better and some more instrumental sfx and drum pattern changes to spice it up. We'll get there. I'm in touch with a vocalist but I'm unsure if she'll pull through.
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Been trying to keep up too. But dare I say I have been through another kind of transition as well musically. Dare I say ..Pop? ::shrugs::
And this is crafted around being a Vox track. It needs a Female voice and I have a specific Melody for the chorus that requires a specific tone I am searching for. Haven't found it; yet
https://soundcloud.com/systematicx1...=social_sharing
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Seems like we're in a somewhat similar headspace in terms of the vibe we're after :). Nice chilled WIP you have here.
I like the start, feels poppy as you wrote. Then there's the fade-in of the drums. I'd prefer some type of sfx and then just have the drums, the fade-in is too simple (although with vocals that might be very different). The doubling of the guitar every few bars is great. Try any make the piano a bit more human by slightly offsetting the note starts and maybe change the dynamic per note.
In terms of vibe, its very soothing. It is going to need those vocals to nail it. I can imagine pre-verbs, big stacked vocals in the chorusses with a lot of width.
Great WIP. I'd personally like a bit more flare here and there with effects on the instruments. delays, reverb swells, those types of things.
I've listened this one through once and wrote down on the second listen. It's a good listen but it's missing the edge. It needs more subtle changes/sfx here and there. It's a strong base but needs a boost to make it stand out.
I like the rhodes. The piano's could come out a little better. Maybe some type of EQ with a bit more of the high end? Maybe even a bit of multiband compression to bring out the sustain a bit more? Also, maybe have parts where the bassline roars more? There is some room for small synths in between the rhodes and piano to play with, or maybe just big pads here and there with super short attack and a long fade into nothingness.
Good stuff all in all! |
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| Storyteller |
I really don't have much... Just something I'm vibing to and would love to extend to a full track.
Other than that a bunch of small 1min clips that I do not intend to expand to full tracks but like anyway :)
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| theterran |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
I really don't have much... Just something I'm vibing to and would love to extend to a full track.
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Yay, it's back...the thread is...alive again!... sorta. heheh.
Nice tight groove on the first one...though, not enough else to go on really, and I've not much experience with anything "house related".
Shame about not expanding the first two in the second group.
I like the rich chording / orchestral vibe of the first one in group 2. Classy piano...really does sound like it wants to go somewhere...I think I liked this one the most.
Second one of the bunch was funny in that...I was thinking this would sound good with some breakbeat...and then the breakbeat hit. Expectations : Satisfied.
I think that thermain-type synth that comes in @ around 00:32 might be what's killing the vibe though. Also sounds like a good candidate for some vocals!
3rd tune I will admit, was not really my vibe, but a nice little idea nonetheless.
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Someday I'll get to go back home, get everything transferred over to the new PC and fiddle around with the projects I've been working on...
Even invested in a nice DAC finally (SMSL D200), and initial impressions were that it drives my HS8's much better than just the PC. Excited to see how it translates into the mixes. |
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| Storyteller |
Thank you sir, I've taken some time to expand the classical piece as I felt the same :). Not yet done, but some pretty nice ideas in there. If I see a way forward I will pick it up, otherwise it will remain as is :)
Also something else which I started a few days ago...
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