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TOTA - APPLE iPHONE & iPAD & Mobile News Thread PT1 (CLOSED) (pg. 203)
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Prometheus Xex
quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
My suggestion ... Enter in DFU mode

Restore to 3.1.2 (given you've backed up your SHSH files) & jailbreak w/ Spirit

or

3.1.3 (no unlocking) & jailbreak w/ Spirit


OK this this is what happened...

Followed your advice, thank you very much. :)
Apple will only let you restore (even from saved 3.1.2 .ipsw file) and certify the restore if you only restore from 3.1.3

If you don't then Apple will refuse and give you "this device isn't eligible for the requested build".

I'm updating everything and so far all good.
Nerologic
quote:
Originally posted by VDub
Rogers started their pre-orders today...

Reg and 3G...

It's really not such a big deal...


Down here in SoCal it is.

All the stores are sold out. Seems like i have to wait a wait i guess...
E2EK1EL
quote:
Originally posted by Prometheus Xex
OK this this is what happened...

Followed your advice, thank you very much. :)
Apple will only let you restore (even from saved 3.1.2 .ipsw file) and certify the restore if you only restore from 3.1.3

If you don't then Apple will refuse and give you "this device isn't eligible for the requested build".

I'm updating everything and so far all good.


You didn't save your SHSH files to Cydia's server then. If you did, you could of stayed @ 3.1.2. This is a serious matter and you must look into this or one day you won't be able to jailbreak if Apple pulls a 3.1.3 FW Update and kill the jailbreak scene again. It was months ... ppl were stuck w/ legit FW.

I'm dead serious w/ this dude.
Prometheus Xex
quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
You didn't save your SHSH files to Cydia's server then. If you did, you could of stayed @ 3.1.2. This is a serious matter and you must look into this or one day you won't be able to jailbreak if Apple pulls a 3.1.3 FW Update and kill the jailbreak scene again. It was months ... ppl were stuck w/ legit FW.

I'm dead serious w/ this dude.


Is there any way of rectifying this oversight?
E2EK1EL
quote:
Originally posted by Prometheus Xex
Is there any way of rectifying this oversight?


Nope

Get started asap ...

http://www.redmondpie.com/save-shsh...ad-3.2-9140709/

The first time you go into Cydia, they will ask you the magic question ... "make my life easier" button. This stores the SHSH (ECID) to Cydia's server for future restore @ the current jailbreakable FW
E2EK1EL
Confirmed: Apple and AT&T signed five-year iPhone exclusivity deal -- but is it still valid?



The term of Apple and AT&T's iPhone exclusivity deal has long been a mystery -- although USA Today reported a five-year arrangement when the original iPhone came out in 2007, that number has never been independently confirmed, and it's been looking suspect in recent weeks as Verizon iPhone chatter has gotten louder. But we've been doing some digging and we can now confirm that Apple and AT&T entered into a five-year iPhone exclusive in 2007, based on court documents filed by Apple in California. Read on!

Here's the deal: an ongoing California class-action lawsuit filed in 2007 claims that Apple and AT&T illegally exerted a monopoly over iPhone service by telling customers the iPhone's required service contract was two years long when the Apple / AT&T exclusivity deal was actually for five years -- thus requiring buyers to re-up with AT&T for three years (and not, say, T-Mobile) if they wanted to keep using the iPhone. Obviously Apple had to respond to these allegations, and in addition to arguing that no one was ever promised an unlocked iPhone after two years, the company's lawyers repeatedly confirm the existence of the five-year agreement while noting it was publicly reported in USA Today. It's extremely black and white -- check these choice quotes from Apple:

"The duration of the exclusive Apple-[AT&T] agreement was not 'secret' either. The [plaintiff] quotes a May 21, 2007 USA Today article – published over a month before the iPhone's release – stating, "AT&T has exclusive U.S. distribution rights for five years-an eternity in the go-go cellphone world."

...

"[T]here was widespread disclosure of [AT&T's] five-year exclusivity and no suggestion by Apple or anyone else that iPhones would become unlocked after two years... Moreover, it is sheer speculation – and illogical – that failing to disclose the five-year exclusivity term would produce monopoly power...

" Now, this all went down in October of 2008, and while it's sort of amazing we hadn't seen it earlier, the real question is whether or not the exclusivity deal is still on the books. (The case is ongoing, but most of the relevant bits have been under seal since 2009.) Contracts can be canceled, amended, and breached in many ways, and AT&T's spotty recent service history plus the explosion of the iPhone and the mobile market in general have given Apple any number of reasons to revisit the deal. In addition, the two companies obviously hit the negotiating table again to hammer out the iPad's pricing plans, and there's no way of knowing whether that deal involves the iPhone as well. But it's nice to finally know for certain that AT&T's initial iPhone exclusivity period was booked until 2012 -- now we just have to see if all this recent chatter means something's changed.

P.S.- Oh, and this case also covers some other relevant and controversial ground: the plaintiffs argued that Apple exerts illegal monopoly power over the iPhone applications market by barring third-party apps from iPhone OS 1.0, and the court ruled the argument was valid enough to go forward. Pretty prescient for 2008 -- we're guessing Adobe and the Federal Trade Commission are very interested in what's going down in California's Northern District right around now.
VERTiG0
malek
I know I read this here, but is it true that I can get an AT&T monthly prepaid SIM in the US if I go down there with my Fido 3GS (not jb/ not unlocked).
Prometheus Xex
quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
Nope

Get started asap ...

http://www.redmondpie.com/save-shsh...ad-3.2-9140709/

The first time you go into Cydia, they will ask you the magic question ... "make my life easier" button. This stores the SHSH (ECID) to Cydia's server for future restore @ the current jailbreakable FW


Ok... followed your advice and backed up the current SHSH. Thanks!
Nick Cenik
quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
You didn't save your SHSH files to Cydia's server then. If you did, you could of stayed @ 3.1.2. This is a serious matter and you must look into this or one day you won't be able to jailbreak if Apple pulls a 3.1.3 FW Update and kill the jailbreak scene again. It was months ... ppl were stuck w/ legit FW.

I'm dead serious w/ this dude.


Thank you for this buddy :) I just backed up my SHSH Blob as well.

E2EK1EL
quote:
Originally posted by malek
I know I read this here, but is it true that I can get an AT&T monthly prepaid SIM in the US if I go down there with my Fido 3GS (not jb/ not unlocked).


Negative, the relocking method I've posted awhile ago has stopped. Without jailbreaking or unlocking, you would be force to roam in the US on the AT&T networks w/ your Fido account.

You can buy roaming packages, but the amount of data our phone use is nuts. My buddy bought some package and used 2x the limit, forcing him to fork out an extra $80.00 on top of his $75 package.

Re: SHSH files backup - your welcome guys.
Anton
I don't know if this was mentioned but you can also back up your SHSH files locally instead of using Cydia just in case the server is down (like it is right now)

http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums...ad.php?t=282684 (how to save the blob)
and
http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums...ad.php?t=282861 (How to restore using the blob you saved)
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