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TOTA - APPLE iPHONE & iPAD & Mobile News Thread PT1 (CLOSED) (pg. 225)
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E2EK1EL
BLAME the french for Canada's IP4 launch delay



The reason why the iphone 4 is not launching in Canada on June 24th is due to Quebec Bill 60 that becomes law on June 30th. Because of Bill 60, every carrier operating in Quebec will have to create new Terms and Conditions for their Quebec subscribers. This Bill will set rules on how carriers must deal with their Quebec customers.

Some of the new rules that Quebec customers will see
1)Starting June 30th, In a Quebec advertisement, carriers must display the full cost of the plan including SAF/911.GRRF fees in the price of their advertisement. Example $40 cityfido plan will be displayed as $40.40 plan.
2)Starting June 30th, Any Quebec customer who activates service with agreement or renewals their agreement must be provided a written copy that contains the cost for every service a carrier can charge this customer. The cost of these services can’t change for the duration of the contract.
3)Starting June 30th, no more 30 days notice. Quebec customers who wants to cancel their service will have their service cancelled immediately once the call ends with the CSR or if the customer ports out.
4)Starting June 30th, Quebec customers will not pay any administrative fees for non payment or rejected payment.
5)Starting June 30th, Quebec customers who want to cancel their service before the end of the term will be charged…. the hardware subsidy received x the number of month remaining divided by how many month is the agreement length. Example: say a Quebec customer got 16GB iphone 3GS for $199 on 3Y term on June 19, 2009. The retail price of 16GB iphone 3GS is $699. So this customer received $500 hardware subsidy from their carrier. Now this customer wants to cancel their line. This customer has 24 month remaining on their contract. (500 x 24 month) divided by 36 month = The ECF in this example will be $336.67 +tax.

These 5 rules are some of the new rules that will come into play on June 30th for Quebec customers.

To have a smooth Canadian iphone 4 launch, Apple and Rogers/Telus/Bell agreed to delay the the launch of the new iphone 4 because they didn’t want to create rules for 6 days that they would have to change on June 30th. So all parties agreed that it was in their best interest for all carriers to be ready for the new Quebec law without having a major iphone launch to deal with. Every CSR who handles Quebec customers, Store Rep in Quebec must be retrained on the new rules. I don’t think any carrier wants a CSR in a training class when thousand of customers are on hold waiting to speak with a CSR to see if they can qualify to get iphone 4.

If it wasn’t for this new Quebec Law, the Canadian iphone 4 launch would have been on June 24 like the Americans.

http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/06/18/inside-bill-60/
VDub
^^^^

That explains it then...

Looks like they got some new consumer protection rules...
Abercrombie
It's all Malek's fault :clown:
jester
They could have still launched it in Canada and just held back the launch for Quebec.

I do like what Quebec doing. People can actually see the true price of the phone and the fees.

Now we just need to do what Europe does. Show the price with the tax in.
malek
Hi guys it's my fault...

lol

Seriously, those rules are very intresting and will set the record straight with these companies.

Hopefully other provinces will follow that lead.
Nerologic


Flash finallyyyy coming to the iPhone.

fap fap fap fap fap

lol
E2EK1EL
quote:
Originally posted by malek
Hi guys it's my fault...

lol

Seriously, those rules are very intresting and will set the record straight with these companies.

Hopefully other provinces will follow that lead.


Tabernac dude!

Why can't you guys do this a month a head of the IP4 launch? :)

Nothing fair about ONT, just have to deal :p
E2EK1EL
Tried 3G iOS4 jailbroken w/ multitasking enabled today and it was extremely slow.

(The unit I've tested today, has a semi - hardware issue, tends to be sluggish when it's jailbroken)

1) Camera shutter speed visually was ok, but the sound lagged 0.5 sec later.

2) Every app launched slowly, like the SE X10 ... you can see the animation running sluggy (not sluggish) & choppy. Once loaded in the mulitasking dock, if you picked that app ... it would be a snappy launch. Just like previous OS with the snapshot cache, but this time it launches the app like backgrounder.

3)iPod mode took forever to load and play a track after you've launched it

Let's hope the FINAL ver performs better, maybe it's my buddy's unit or it's still really in BETA form even though it's a GM Build.

If it does; then I would have to decide between A & B during the wait time of my HUP of IP4

A) Run legit w/o multitasking

B) Downgrade & stay @ 3.1.2 (previously updated w/ custom IPSW w/ the baseband preserved)



Funny thing is, when you remove backgrounded apps ... this this pic you can't not remove Phone, Email and iPod. The ver i used can remove all of them
E2EK1EL
RUMOR: White iPhone 4 likely not available at launch

Playa24_7
The GPS tracking software my company uses for our delivery drivers has previously only been available on Blackberrys and Windows Mobile devices. With iOS4 coming out though, which allows background apps, they are finally creating a version that will work on the iPhone properly, and thus, I can now use it. Woot! haha

E2EK1EL
Canada getting unlocked iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4



Cheer up Canada. Sure, you can’t pre-order your iPhone 4 today, but you may end up with the last laugh. The Apple Store Canada is touting “commitment free” iPhones that are unlocked and ready to go on the carrier of your choice. The iPhone 4 is currently listed as “coming soon,” but an 8GB iPhone 3GS can be pre-ordered for $549 with shipping starting on June 24th. If you pay full-price for an unsubsidized phone it shouldn’t be locked to a carrier? What a novel idea Apple!

**** THINGS TO THINK ABOUT ****

- Hmmmmm how often do I travel? (once a yr @ most)
- Hmmmmm how often do I jump carriers? (never :()
Brennen
iphone 4 is compared to this phone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY_7HpqDrdQ
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