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TOTA - APPLE iPHONE & iPAD & Mobile News Thread PT1 (CLOSED) (pg. 344)
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Nerologic
I'm such a mark. I am going to prolly convert my iPhone white in a week or so.

Going to order this once I sell my wheels lol

$180 for it.



Iphone 4 White Housing Front Digitizer+lcd + Back Cover Assembly+ Home Button

http://www.amazon.com/Digitizer-Ass...88239359&sr=8-1

EDIT:

Anyone know where to get it cheaper?? :conf:

This one comes with crap I dont need, like some cloth and screen protector.
E2EK1EL
My suggestion, none of the White IP4 parts are OEM and they're all Grade A replicas. Do some serious homework about which vender you're gonna buy from.

Remember, the front glass is now glued to the LCD & digitizer for the IP4..

Best of luck.

(Best method of making this housing swap cheaper, keep the black housing with you and once someone breaks their glass here ... That's gonna be your gate way)
Nerologic
The kit I posted comes with the digitizer and screen.

But after seeing this vid I might save 120 and get the 60dlr kit w/o the digitizer :conf:

Damn it apple for pulling this bull. Unless anyone knows someone at Cupertino that can get one of the white ones? lol

E2EK1EL
If you do that, you will have to separate the LCD + digitizer from the glass and some how re-glue it to the white glass?

It's better now that it's glued, no more dust in the screens.

Edit: The video above, that glass, LCD & digitizer are non oem. The real ver is glued down extremely hard.


"
Unfortunately, the LCD panel is very securely glued to the glass and digitizer, with the entire assembly measuring 3.05mm thick. It appears that if you break the glass, you'll have to replace the iPhone 4's glass, digitizer, and LCD as a single assembly."

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4-Teardown/3130/1
E2EK1EL
4.2 is now jailbroken with snowbreeze
Nerologic
quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
If you do that, you will have to separate the LCD + digitizer from the glass and some how re-glue it to the white glass?

It's better now that it's glued, no more dust in the screens.

Edit: The video above, that glass, LCD & digitizer are non oem. The real ver is glued down extremely hard.


"
Unfortunately, the LCD panel is very securely glued to the glass and digitizer, with the entire assembly measuring 3.05mm thick. It appears that if you break the glass, you'll have to replace the iPhone 4's glass, digitizer, and LCD as a single assembly."

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4-Teardown/3130/1


fuk.

Now that I think about it, 180 is a hell of a lot to pay for that crap.

idk :conf:
Endlesswave
quote:
Originally posted by Nerologic
fuk.

Now that I think about it, 180 is a hell of a lot to pay for that crap.

idk :conf:


It's almost half the price of the phone w an hup. That's crazy. I like white but wouldn't be willing to mess w the phone etc.
E2EK1EL
iPhone power: why Apple wins the smartphone war




Overwhelmed by the iPhone effect and unable yet to match the Apple gadget on features, prospects seem bleak for many smartphone makers. Android as an army may have a rapidly growing slice of the market, but the speed of its advance is no more than smoke and mirrors -- there's no future if handset manufacturers can't see the money.
I'm not convinced Android's fragmented market is pouring profit into handset maker's coffers -- though it doesn't cost them anything to install on their devices.

Mythically open

Carriers also enjoy the openness they enjoy with the Google OS -- they can activate and block whatever features they like, making for some confusion for consumers.

[This story is from Computerworld's Apple Holic blog. Follow on Twitter or subscribe via RSS to make sure you don't miss a beat.]

Despite the claims of Android openness, the only end users who can truly enjoy that sensation are the ones with the technical skill required to jailbreak their device to activate features not necessarily embraced by the carrier or manufacturer.

What this means is that for most of us, Android is only just as open as the iPhone -- you only get to do what you want with either device when you jailbreak them.

It's time to move away from this "open" hype. Really. The hubbub around 'Open' Android reminds me of the scene in 'Monty Python, Life of Brian' in which the mother of Brian yells at a crowd, "He's not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty boy." In the interests of humor, click on the image below and you'll reach the YouTube clip (warning, there's a moment of nudity).



Android is not the smartphone messiah. There's also trouble ahead.

Jumpin' Java

Google currently stands accused of directly copying Oracle's Java code within Android. So far as I can tell, Oracle seems to be gathering ever more compelling evidence to support its position.

While Google calls the accusation "baseless", what will happen if it loses the case? Will Oracle then be in a position to sue device makers?

At least device makers -- who are increasingly beginning to recognize that they are not software developers -- can compete by deploying the free OS.

So what?

Google's Android business dispenses with the troublesome and expensive process of hardware production and support and goes straight to the high profit virtual center of smartphone evolution: ads, location data, user data and personalization.

The reason the OS is freely-licensed is because Google knows there's no money in the heavily subsidized and highly competitive mobile handset market. And the OS makes a land-grab for where the future virtual economy sits. Handset makers just provide the hardware.

Where's the money?

But is there any money to be made creating hardware for a deeply competitive market?

Look to Nokia's disappointing financials. Look at Sony Ericcsson, RIM. Palm couldn't survive alone and sold itself into HP.

This morning we learn that LG Electronics has posted record mobile phone segment losses in its second successive quarter of making losses. It lost $270 million in Q3, double the previous loss. Sales in the US and Europe fell.

In response LG recently introduced the Android-powered Optimus One smartphone. The company also plans to offer Windows Phone 7 devices and a 'premium' smartphone's set to ship next year.

This characterizes the situation: Handset manufacturers are scrambling to produce highly-featured devices. But this is posing another problem -- component supply.

Apple's annual report, released last night, tells us that company management anticipates component price hikes.

"The Company expects its gross margin percentage to decrease in future periods compared to levels achieved during 2010 and anticipates gross margin levels of about 36% in the first quarter of 2011. This expected decline is largely due to a higher mix of new and innovative products that have higher cost structures and deliver greater value to customers, and expected and potential future component cost and other cost increases," the report said.

With numerous firms chasing finite supply, component prices can only rise. Supply and demand indicates that when lots of people want the same thing and there's insufficient supply, prices rise.

Strategy Analytics will later today publish its Q3 2010 Global Handset Vendor Market Share report. This will doubtless show rapid increases in Android market share, but will also show that component constraints have begun to bite.

In a statement provided to me, Strategy Analytics' Director, Wireless Device Strategies (WDS), Neil Mawston, takes this position:

"We think there is still plenty of profit in mobile hardware, you just have to dig harder for it nowadays. If you hit a seam of gold, like Apple in premium smartphones, then profits boom. If you miss a seam of gold, like LG in premium smartphones, then profits quickly fade," he said.

"Some software and services are semi-commoditizing, because Google is trying to push their prices toward zero. For example, the OS is mostly free, search is free, maps are free, amateur video is free, and so on. Google wants to draw in eyeballs with low-cost software and services, and then reap profits with targeted adverts.

"Apple wants to lock in users with proprietary software and services, and then reap profits with high-value hardware and high-value adverts," he added, contrasting the two business models of the former allies.

Intense competition; component cost price hikes; and rapid technology advancement makes this an incredibly challenging market.

Components -- feel the squeeze


But with a growing slice of the smartphone business, Apple is in a much stronger position than most, and it has a business model on which it can sustain itself.

There's another advantage: Apple makes just one basic handset. This is an advantage because it means the company can fill huge component orders, sometimes months in advance.

While Android's share may match or exceed it as a mass, manufacturers depending on the OS are actually signing a warrant toward future consolidation.

That's because they cannot match the block purchase savings of Apple's iPhone, and don't get the same slice of after-market revenue Apple enjoys. Google gets that.

Component-based market pressures emerged before with the iPod (currently owning 70 percent of the MP3 player market). Competing firms produced some good-looking devices, but could never quite match the iPod range on features, mind-share or profit margin.

(I say profit margin, rather than price. It doesn't matter if you sell something cheaper than others if you can't make a profit on the sale. That's not business. That's charity).

The smartphone wars are far from over. Expect further casualties. And look forward to iPhone 5, and the looming Verizon iPhone, too. (And take a look at this report for a sense of how complex things will become when Verizon offers the phone).
E2EK1EL
*Confidential* Rogers to Launch Home Alarm Service
Rogers Security Service Trial

Rogers Security Service (RSS) is a fully automated broadband and wireless enabled security service. Unlike most security systems, RSS provides remote access where you can view, arm and disarm your system from anywhere you can get an internet connection or from your wireless device. In the future, we plan on expanding these types of capabilities to include other home management functions such as adjusting lighting and heating remotely.

As a new service and key differentiator, we are asking employees to keep this information confidential and use discretion when discussing this project with others.

Selected participants will need to:

• Provide discretion both in using the service, as well as in any discussions of the service
• Provide permission to allow the free installation of the hardware to take place in your home.
• Be at home for your assigned installation appointment
• Use the service, report any issues, complete test cases and provide feedback via online surveys
• Subscribed for another 8 months after the end of the 4 month trial (Approx. $25/mth for the Basic Package with the employee discount). *Note: You will receive the hardware used in the trial and the installation for no charge (value $500).

Frequently asked questions (FAQ's)

1. What is RSS?

RSS stands for Rogers Security Service which is a fully automated broadband and wireless enabled security system.

2. Why is Rogers launching this service?

Rogers prides itself on providing innovative and interactive solutions to our customers and this is one more example of our commitment of being a full-service communications company.

3. Will my security system be professionally monitored during the trial?

Your security system will be professionally monitored and may be dispatched to emergency services (e.g. the police) during the trial in the event of an alarm.

4. What are the incentives for participating?

a) You will receive all of the security hardware and installation at no charge.

b) You will receive discounted monthly fees (50% off as per the employee discount) at the conclusion of trial

c) Upon completing the trial, you will be entered in a draw to win one of three American Express Gift Cards ranging from $100 - $250

5. How long will the RSS Trial last?

The trial is scheduled to run for four months however it is possible that this will be extended. Any changes will be communicated in advance.

6. What if I am unable to complete a survey or participate in the trial due to vacation, sickness or leave of absence?

Continuous participation is required to remain in the trial. By testing and completing the surveys, you are helping shape and determine the best way to launch this service in Canada. If you are unable to complete a survey or participate in the trial, please send an email to the BRT Team at [email protected][/email]

7. Who do I contact if I have questions about the trial?

For any questions or comments related to the trail, please email [email][email protected]

8. Am I allowed to tell friends and family that I am testing our new service?

No. All Rogers employees must adhere to the Rogers non disclosure agreement and business code of conduct. All internal programs must be held in strict confidence considering this is a new Line of Business for Rogers and new market segment we will be entering into.
E2EK1EL
Not iPhone related, but worthy to be in this wonderful thread.



Maybe one of us should attend an Apple Conference next year and ask a really deep question to Steve Jobs.

VDub
quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL


8. Am I allowed to tell friends and family that I am testing our new service?

No. All Rogers employees must adhere to the Rogers non disclosure agreement and business code of conduct. All internal programs must be held in strict confidence considering this is a new Line of Business for Rogers and new market segment we will be entering into.


BBABAHAHAHAHAHAHA
VDub
quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
Not iPhone related, but worthy to be in this wonderful thread.



Maybe one of use should attend an Apple Conference next year and ask a really deep question to Steve Jobs.


I think I can safely say that this kid will die a virgin...

And what's "one of use"???
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