|
TOTA - APPLE iPHONE & iPAD & Mobile News Thread PT1 (CLOSED) (pg. 250)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| E2EK1EL |
GEOHOMO QUITS!
George Hotz (aka Geohot), the iPhone hacking expert who had released popular jailbreaking and unlocking tools like blackra1n, blacksn0w had broken his silence few days back to announce that he had jailbroken iPhone 4.
However, he had also mentioned that he didn’t plan to release tools to jailbreak it, which resulted in angry reactions from iPhone users.
He had published a photo of iPhone 4 running Cydia to prove that he had jailbroken iPhone 4.
But he has just updated the post in reaction to the angry comments that he received to his blog post stating that he's probably not going to release the tool and may quit the scene:
Sorry, this post was probably a bad idea. Next time I won't say anything. I miss when this blog was actually about technical things(I've been reacting too much to the feedback, which led it to the place it's in now). I didn't fully realize most of the current scene don't care unless they are getting something. Now I do. It's late tonight, I'll think about what to do about this in the morning.
The real reason behind no release isn't technical. It's just that it will never stop, after blackra1n, people demand unlock, after blacksn0w, people demand untethered. I miss the days when jailbreaking and unlocking were difficult, it attracted a much higher caliber crowd.
Also, to the haters, the picture is quite obviously fake :D
It is disappointing to see Geohot abandoning the iPhone jailbreaking and unlocking scene. He was the first guy to unlock the original iPhone in 2007. He was also the first to jailbreak iPhone 3GS and to release tools like blackra1n and blacksn0w to jailbreak and unlock iPhone 3GS for iPhone OS 3.1.2. I’m sure he will be missed.
This means that users will have to wait for Comex to release a Spirit like tool to jailbreak iOS 4 for iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS(irrespective of old or new bootrom) and also for iPhone 4.
As always, we’ll let you know as soon as we’ve any further updates. Stay tuned here at iPhone Hacks or follow us on Twitter or subscribe to our RSS feed.
[via Geohot’s blog]
Thank GOD and GOODBYE |
|
|
| E2EK1EL |
iPhone Hacking 101 - The Turth Behind Geohomo's History
The iPhone Dev-Team says Geohot is using stolen code to provoke them into an early release of PwnageTool.
In a lengthy posting on why its best not to rush the release of the jailbreak the iPhone Dev-Team writes that Geohot was kicked off the team for not abiding by their rules. Apparently, Geohots first hardware hack was a result of some of their tools. Now they believe one of their team members has leaked a copy of their exploit to Geohot and that George is using the exploit to provoke them into releasing PwnageTool.
Read More
Dev Team's Official Letter
Over the last year we’ve discovered some interesting things about the software used in the iPhone. These “hacks” , “exploits” and “techniques”, or whatever you want to call them, are valuable - not only from a financial perspective (so scummy people can sell unlocking software) but also from a strategic point of view. Think of it like a game of poker, showing your hand too early would certainly make you lose “the game”.
The majority of iPhone users are not technical - they want an easy, one-stop, simple application that will allow them to quickly and painlessly unlock their phone. If we were to release a crummy command-line based tool that does the immediate job that everyone is screaming for, we’d only end up in the following situation:
1) The technique is released to the world and people use this technique to quickly create GUI apps that they charge cash-money for, or re-release something hacky and horrible that bricks lots of devices, or for example disables the WiFi that then causes more stress that ultimately comes back to us
2) The technique is exposed to the vendor, allowing them to locate and repair the security hole. Sometimes these security holes span product versions, for example: between the first generation and second generation iPhone. In such a case releasing the knowledge in the middle of the product development cycle is pointless and risks the “usefulness” of the technique - especially if there are existing hacks/techniques that work just fine.
The iPhone DevTeam is comprised of a group of people who work together over IRC from various parts of the world. This distributed method of working happens 24 hours a day with people performing tasks in the time that best suits their time-zones. It is a completely self-managing, self-regulating and member-funded organization. Most of us have never met face-to-face and we rarely know real names - in fact, we would more than likely not recognize each other if we walk past one another on the street. Despite this we follow a strict “hacker code”: ground rules by which we all abide.
Perhaps the foremost of these rules is management of knowledge. We keep certain information private, restricted to members of the team only (to help with points 1 and 2 above), and members are entrusted to make sure this secrecy is consistently enforced. This makes the team. Only when there is a majority vote from the team do we make any announcement or release.
So now we come onto Geohot, the self appointed media frontman for last year’s iPhone hacks. Geohot actually worked with us a month or so before the media-circus that he led. Geohot is certainly a bright guy, but he couldn’t abide by rules that I described in the last paragraph and because of this he was asked to leave the team. Of course like any hacker Geohot continued on for his goal.
Using some of our techniques and tools (and some of his) and using his own brain power (and that of an unnamed Russian) he was able to release his hardware hack and demonstrate the first unlocked iPhone to the world, he has also demonstrated other things during the last year and some of those releases have helped us with our work.
We thought that Geohot would have matured somewhat in the last year, but this clearly isn’t the case, as sadly one of the team members has leaked a copy of our exploit to Geohot and he is now using this to provoke us into making an early release :-(
So finally, just in case some of you were wondering, we’re not sitting on this tool because we’re full of ourselves or stuck up our own asses. We’re not sitting on it cause we like to see you writhe. We are testing it to make sure it’s as glitch-free as we can make it. We want to avoid releasing something that turns expensive phones into pretty looking paperweights. Don’t you agree it’s worth the wait?
If others want to feel like they’re in control by posting all-knowing entries on their blogs, we can’t stop that, but the new PwnageTool will be released when it’s ready, and not a moment later.
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=1524
(Things you learn each day ... stolen codes, getting kicked off, stole the fame to feed your ego & rushing releases to the world over) |
|
|
| Nerologic |
I don't care what the haters say.
Geohot is the ing MAN!
He will be back...
:toothless |
|
|
| E2EK1EL |
iPhone 4 Jailbreak and Unlock becomes real just as Geohot leaves the Jailbreak scene
Twitter lit up this morning with signs that an iPhone 4 jailbreak and unlock is definitely on it’s way. On the other side of things, original iPhone Jailbreaker, GeoHot (George Hotz) has apparently deleted his Twitter account and made his blog private. What’s going on? Keep reading.
I noticed this morning @planetbeing had posted a tweet saying a soft unlock had been achieved. He’s followed up by posting pics of an iPhone 4 running Cydia and a pic showing the phone running on Canadian carrier, Bell. This is definitely good news for all you iPhone 4 owners itching for your jailbreak and/or unlock. For end users, a jailbreak may still be a month or two off, but for developers and hackers, this is great news and major progress. @Comex had reported a userland jailbreak not that long ago. Using that, himself and @planetbeing are making great progress.
Now on to GeoHot. He posted up an article talking about his jailbreak for iPhone 4 and what he had posted over the weekend. I showed a little skepticism about whether or not it was real. In the past, geohot had always given us a little bit more “actual” proof than what he gave this time. Apparently in his last blog, he commented that the screen shot actually wasn’t real.
“Sorry, this post was probably a bad idea. Next time I won’t say anything. I miss when this blog was actually about technical things(I’ve been reacting too much to the feedback, which led it to the place it’s in now). I didn’t fully realize most of the current scene don’t care unless they are getting something. Now I do. It’s late tonight, I’ll think about what to do about this in the morning. The real reason behind no release isn’t technical. It’s just that it will never stop, after blackra1n, people demand unlock, after blacksn0w, people demand untethered. I miss the days when jailbreaking and unlocking were difficult, it attracted a much higher caliber crowd. Also, to the haters, the picture is quite obviously fake ”
Geohot got a lot of heat on his own blog and all over the Twitter-verse for his post over the weekend. Many people calling foul and saying his ego had gotten way too large for his own good. I somewhat see his point about it never ending. He’s never charged for his work so people waiting with their hand out can probably get a little irritating at times. Maybe he didn’t handle it in the best manner, but he’s made up his mind (for now anyways).
So to @planetbeing and @comex, congrats and thanks for all your hard work, we’re all just as excited as you are! And to geohot, maybe we’ll see you around again soon? |
|
|
| Anton |
| So I just read somewhere that the 'death-grip' issue affects the 3GS too, so I decided to try and if you grip it by the bottom areas the signal totally drops. I don't know if this is just a Bell issue or what, but I think Apple has a serious problem here. |
|
|
| E2EK1EL |
Engineer Claims Consumer Reports iPhone 4 Reception Problem Study Is Flawed
Consumer Reports, a popular product review and comparison organization had announced yesterday that it can’t recommend iPhone 4 due to its widely publicized reception problems.
It is turning out to be a PR nightmare for Apple as mainstream media have also picked up the story. PR experts believe that Apple will have to recall iPhone 4 due to the problem.
Bob Egan, an electromagnetic engineer who has experience in exactly the kind of issues that Apple is facing with iPhone 4 claims that Consumer Reports study is flawed.
Egan explains:
"To even reasonably run a scientific test, the iPhone should have been sitting on a non-metallic pedestal inside an anechoic chamber. The base station simulator should have been also sitting outside the chamber and had a calibrated antenna plumbed to it from inside the chamber.
I have not seen CR’s claim directly that the finger effect reduces the iPhones sensitivity by 20db as reported elsewhere, but unless CR connected to a functional point inside the iPhone that number is fantasy.”
He also points out that the assumption made by Consumer Reports to test the change “by varying the base station simulator levels by varying the base station simulator levels – seems to assume the iPhone receiver and/or transmitter operate in a linear fashion (the same way) across all signal strengths” is a bad assumption.
Bottom line. From what I can see in the reports, Consumer Reports replicated the same uncontrolled, unscientific experiments that many of the blogging sites have done
He adds:
I’m not saying that Apple has no h/w problem and they surely have a s/w issue. But I’m still wondering that if the software signal algorithm was not AFU’d in the first place how many, if anyone would talking about this “problem”
Apple had released a public statement two weeks back to confirm that they’re incorrectly displaying the signal strength, which will be fixed with a software update that will provide users a much better indication of the reception that they are getting in a given area.
Egan notes that it is not known “what part of this problem is Apple’s and what part is related to the AT&T network”. I guess we will soon find out when Apple releases the iPhone software update for iPhone 4 to correctly display the signal strength.
Do you think the issue is being blown out of proportion? What’s your take on the issue? |
|
|
| E2EK1EL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anton
So I just read somewhere that the 'death-grip' issue affects the 3GS too, so I decided to try and if you grip it by the bottom areas the signal totally drops. I don't know if this is just a Bell issue or what, but I think Apple has a serious problem here. |
Take some screenshots with the home screen and speedtest.net app dude. |
|
|
| Anton |
| Just tried it, signal bars are low but speed test is the same, odd |
|
|
| E2EK1EL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anton
Just tried it, signal bars are low but speed test is the same, odd |
Sreenshot dude |
|
|
| Cyrus King |
Jon, why you hate geo so much?
| quote: | Originally posted by E2EK1EL
GEOHOMO QUITS!
George Hotz (aka Geohot), the iPhone hacking expert who had released popular jailbreaking and unlocking tools like blackra1n, blacksn0w had broken his silence few days back to announce that he had jailbroken iPhone 4.
However, he had also mentioned that he didn’t plan to release tools to jailbreak it, which resulted in angry reactions from iPhone users.
He had published a photo of iPhone 4 running Cydia to prove that he had jailbroken iPhone 4.
But he has just updated the post in reaction to the angry comments that he received to his blog post stating that he's probably not going to release the tool and may quit the scene:
Sorry, this post was probably a bad idea. Next time I won't say anything. I miss when this blog was actually about technical things(I've been reacting too much to the feedback, which led it to the place it's in now). I didn't fully realize most of the current scene don't care unless they are getting something. Now I do. It's late tonight, I'll think about what to do about this in the morning.
The real reason behind no release isn't technical. It's just that it will never stop, after blackra1n, people demand unlock, after blacksn0w, people demand untethered. I miss the days when jailbreaking and unlocking were difficult, it attracted a much higher caliber crowd.
Also, to the haters, the picture is quite obviously fake :D
It is disappointing to see Geohot abandoning the iPhone jailbreaking and unlocking scene. He was the first guy to unlock the original iPhone in 2007. He was also the first to jailbreak iPhone 3GS and to release tools like blackra1n and blacksn0w to jailbreak and unlock iPhone 3GS for iPhone OS 3.1.2. I’m sure he will be missed.
This means that users will have to wait for Comex to release a Spirit like tool to jailbreak iOS 4 for iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS(irrespective of old or new bootrom) and also for iPhone 4.
As always, we’ll let you know as soon as we’ve any further updates. Stay tuned here at iPhone Hacks or follow us on Twitter or subscribe to our RSS feed.
[via Geohot’s blog]
Thank GOD and GOODBYE |
|
|
|
| E2EK1EL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Jon, why you hate geo so much? |
Read the next blog dude
"iPhone Hacking 101 - The Turth Behind Geohomo's History" - This will give you the previous sh*t he did and by now you should know all the present BS he's pulled. |
|
|
|
|
