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Workout Thread IV (pg. 483)
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| Paradox Lost |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
On that, people seem to think that weights are the absolute key to high-intensity strength. Anecdotally though, I would say that is untrue. After running for four or five years at high level, I was able to totally cream the gym junkies on the leg press without any previous experience, and maintain my lifts for far longer too. |
Such a satisfying feeling, this is; strutting into the gym, all 150 pounds of me, and showing up the weight rats at their own game.
Well, insofar as it related to my legs and muscle endurance. :D
Anyway, despite my acknowledgment of the benefit that supplementing an intense running program with consistent weight lifting provided, I was always rather hesitant to do it. Even though the additional muscle mass I gained through exercising muscles most relevant to distance running was very minimal, I was always concerned that the additional bulk would ultimately be counter productive.
Anyway, that was eight years ago, and now it's all fair game- to the arm curls! |
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| Silky Johnson |
| I like watching stupid bitches use the machines after me and have to take the weight down 20-30 pounds, lol. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paradox Lost
...to the arm curls! |
Arm curls? Pfft. Bench press, military press, and rows are where it's at.
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| Paradox Lost |
| All those workouts as part of a comprehensive program are where it's at! |
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| chimera66 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
I like watching stupid bitches use the machines after me and have to take the weight down 20-30 pounds, lol. |
depending on who it is but that feeling is satisfying :happy2: |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Such a satisfying feeling, this is; strutting into the gym, all 150 pounds of me, and showing up the weight rats at their own game.
Well, insofar as it related to my legs and muscle endurance. :D
Anyway, despite my acknowledgment of the benefit that supplementing an intense running program with consistent weight lifting provided, I was always rather hesitant to do it. Even though the additional muscle mass I gained through exercising muscles most relevant to distance running was very minimal, I was always concerned that the additional bulk would ultimately be counter productive.
Anyway, that was eight years ago, and now it's all fair game- to the arm curls! |
Since I quit running and bulked up a bit, I have found that my arms get tired very quickly on longer runs because they carry more weight now, but my increased core strength and arm musculature is better for sprinting and shorter runs. |
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| Gauss |
| quote: | Originally posted by chimera66
not really. it shouldn't be too severe or you'll just look freakish. nutrition and exercise go hand in hand if you ask me, although nutrition does take a slight edge. given you have a fairly muscular back you must train more than you let on, that's not mostly nutrition. |
Haha, I'm far away from looking freakish. My weight is below 70 kg (156 lbs) right now and that's the way my back looks when it's flexed, of course it's different when it's relaxed.
The thing I said about nutrition is because I used to train for 3-4 years with minimal progress thanks to insufficient amounts of food, I mean literally training for 3-4 years with constant look and no advances. I did it because I was satisfied with the way I looked, but eventually I got bored of it because no progress equals no motivation. Then I started reading up and educating myself, started eating right and in half a year I made more progress than in last 3-4 years together. Of course training is important, but with inadequate nutrition, training is vain. Now I'm motivated more than ever.
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Yeah, personally, I think that looks gross. |
My girlfriend doesn't. ;)
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Nope. You've gone and overdone it. |
Like I've said, I'm far away from overdoing it as I weight below 70 kg right now. My goal is to reach around 78 kg.
In last few days I've received positive comments from probably around 30 different people, about that particular picture of my back, on bodybuilding forum, Facebook (laugh all you want :p) and in real life.
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Sorry Gauss, I have to agree. Your lats are a bit silly looking. |
Define silly. :p
This is how it looks relaxed:
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| Fledz |
Well to be honest that picture is much better. You're still a bit too wide but hey, all you have to do now is get fat and increase your lovehandles so you can look like a donut :p
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
I like watching stupid bitches use the machines after me and have to take the weight down 20-30 pounds, lol. |
Why? Everyone is different you know. |
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| Gauss |
:p
In my opinion, female torso should be hourglass shaped and male torso should be V shaped, that's the look I'm going for. ;) |
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| Fledz |
| I think you've been reading too much Asterix :tongue2 |
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| KiNeTiC ENeRgY |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I do front squats because I find it easier to maintain proper form that way and I don't have a rack (not going to try to clean the weight and then maneuver it behind my head, LOL).
As far as injury goes, I am scared of deadlifts, although I do try them occasionally. |
{deadlifts} if u warm up properly, THEN stretch...start out with a light weight then move to a heavier workout weight you are good. Deadlifts are the essential back workout. Should be the #1 exercise u do on back day. |
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| Gauss |
| quote: | Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
{deadlifts} if u warm up properly, THEN stretch...start out with a light weight then move to a heavier workout weight you are good. Deadlifts are the essential back workout. Should be the #1 exercise u do on back day. |
It is true that weight should be added gradually to let your back adapt, but I wouldn't call deadlift essential. At least not regular deadlift because it's very heavy exercise and takes a lot of energy that could be spent more efficiently elsewhere (pull ups, barbell rowing, dumbbell rowing, t-bar rowing etc.), targeting only one muscle (erector spinae). I know deadlift is compound and works out the whole body to certain degree, but it's primarily used for working erectors out.
In my case, I do straight legged deadlifts to work out my hamstrings where, of course, lower back takes part of the load. That way you work your back out with a lot more intensity and still get your erectors worked out on leg day. ;)
As for squats, front squats > back squats. Back squats are for people with too big ego who can't handle using lower weights and proper form. Front squats are far more lower back and knee friendly and you don't use gluteuses and hamstrings nearly as much as in back squats. |
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