tell him that steroids dont make your self esteem bigger :(
but seriously
knowing you can achieve something on your own...thats a much better feeling. the body builders of today can get there and some are even vegetarian. Im pretty sure hard work pays off more than chemicals.
Its a bitch way out.
RickyM
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Originally posted by Orbax
tell him that steroids dont make your self esteem bigger :(
but seriously
knowing you can achieve something on your own...thats a much better feeling. the body builders of today can get there and some are even vegetarian. Im pretty sure hard work pays off more than chemicals.
Its a bitch way out.
Yeah you're right about the achievement part...but what about stuff like creatine, since it's already in your body, would that count as cheating ;):D...I know that it's completely different from taking steroids though.
Orbax
n02 is what your cells produce when you work them out. adding in more is a modification of a pre-existing condition that your body knows what to do with.
stuff like steroids is just throwing in gunpowder and watching everything blow up.
too many side effects that you just cant cope with
Masonious
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Originally posted by RickyM
Yeah after the first 2 days I could hardly move lol, was so bad I was considering not going into work. Felt like I had been punched all over.
Since you seem knowledgeable MR Mason, I'll ask you about whether or not I should be talking my mate out of taking steroids. He's already massive (though not really ripped at all, mainly bulk), so we were suggesting that he should work on that. But he wants to be even bigger and wants a shortcut to it, so are steroids a good idea?
absolutely, with the abundance of nutritional information available these days steroids are an unhealthy superfluous shortcut. He will certainly make quicker gains now, but the consequences will most likely catch up with him and outweigh those gains.
Hormones with people enough already without people ing them up.
His tiny pipi alone will make those gains seem even more silly. I'm sure he's trying to get huge to impress women. His junk will already appear smaller if he's a big guy now, taking drugs to get bigger while shrinking his junk will produce nothing but laughter from the woman he finally finds.
bad frigging idea, i'd talk him out of it if you can.
RickyM
Thanks man.
As far as I'm aware (or what I've read) steroids do something weird to your balls, shrinking them or whatever...but I thought the whole shrinking your dick thing was a myth.
When we questioned him about having a shrunken set of balls he said "Yeah but sure they'll return to their normal size once I come off them"...ing idiot...but he is set on taking them, he starts 1st Feb.
RickyM
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Originally posted by Orbax
stuff like steroids is just throwing in gunpowder and watching everything blow up.
Nice analogy :D
MrJiveBoJingles
I've heard of people taking a cycle or two of steroids to "bump" themselves up for a bit with big gains and then continue working out normally (without steroids).
Masonious
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I've heard of people taking a cycle or two of steroids to "bump" themselves up for a bit with big gains and then continue working out normally.
truth be told i'm sure that steroids can be used reasonably and safely to achieve positive muscular results. I just think they're so unnecessary, the side effects of rage, smaller testicles, bloody noses and bacne aren't wroth the gains you could get by spending 3 or 4 months longer working out. If you've seen pictures of Ronnie Coleman you'll see you can do just fine in the mass department without steroids. At least I'm pretty sure he doesn't take em.
MrJiveBoJingles
Ronnie really doesn't take them? That's pretty damn impressive if so.
Masonious
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Ronnie really doesn't take them? That's pretty damn impressive if so.
he has passed every test he has ever taken and says he has never used 'em. Not incontrovertible evidence that he has never taken them, but until something is presented that makes me believe otherwise, I believe what Ronnie said.
he takes supplements like a mofo though
Floorfiller
i have a guy at my gym that's trying to become pro and he says that most pros are on some combination of insulin and growth hormone.
dunno about ronnie inparticular, but jesus is he a beast...