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Workout Thread IV (pg. 582)
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
to illustrate the point that fats contain more then double the calories of proteins and carbs, yet you say that not avoiding them isnt helpfull to reducing your caloric intake.
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Where did I say this? |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I just ing did. Do you want me to copy-paste my last post over and over while you backtrack further and change what you said? Because that's the only way this discussion is going.
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i thought i answered this over and over again, but it seems like your not reading what i wrote
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Don't play the victim now, son. You've thrown plenty of insults in this argument, so you merely look like a little bitch who can dish it, but won't take it: |
2 against one in a barrage of ad hominem attacks.. i feel like you're 2 negros with a snake trying to force it up my ass.
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"oh and one more thing to fill your devoid brain"
"i spoonfed you, exactly what you're accustomed to."
"theres probably a good reason as to why you are on welfare.. i think ive figured it out."
"dumbass" |
for the record, those were all directed at you after you first started with the ad hominem attacks genius. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
1) cholesterol intake will effect cholesterol levels over time
2) reducing fatty food intake is helpfull in weightloss (and an easier way to create a calorie deficit and feel satiated). |
1) May. MAY. Positively or negatively? Should people focus on it though? No, because there are better ways to reduce cholesterol than worrying about the cholesterol levels in a food.
2) Of course it is, for s sake. Everybody knows that. Carbs, sugar and salt are an even better way. "Fat free" foods is the worst marketing bull to happen in the last 20 years because it makes people (like yourself) seem to think that cutting fat from food will make them lose all that fat, when in fact it's a lot more complicated.
I fail to see how any of this proves that egg yolks are bad for you... |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Where did I say this? |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Also ziptnf - If you're trying to lose weight, then carbohydrates and sugar are what you should be targeting, not fats . It's quite simple, if you burn off more kilojoules than you take in, you lose weight. More muscle mass also increases your resting metabolism. In practice it's quite straight forward. Focusing on fats and the amount of cholesterol will get you nowhere fast. |
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| Fledz |
| Read my post above. I said to focus on carbs and sugar (salt too) because it's more efficient, rather than just fats. Your argument is ing awful :stongue: |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
1) May. MAY. Positively or negatively? Should people focus on it though? No, because there are better ways to reduce cholesterol than worrying about the cholesterol levels in a food.
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if you have high cholesterol, you should lower your cholesterol intake through foods especially those with high ldl. I know because i've gone through it and been told to by a General practitioner and a gastroenterologists.
It takes a significant amount of time to do so, but it helps rather then keeping the cholesterol intake the same
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I fail to see how any of this proves that egg yolks are bad for you... |
perhaps if you read my post about ldl cholesterol in eggs, maybe that answers the quesiton for you.
27% of the cholesterol in eggs is ldl cholesterol. If you consume a large amount of eggs, your ldl choleserol per day will increase and so will your cholesterol levels over time. This isnt rocket science here. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Read my post above. I said to focus on carbs and sugar (salt too) because it's more efficient, rather than just fats. Your argument is ing awful :stongue: |
how is it more efficient when fats contain more than double the amount of calories than carbs and proteins? |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Excess sugar gets stored as fat. If you cut out carbs and sugar, your body will learn to use fat more readily as an energy source. And don't forget about the connection between blood glucose and metabolism. Cutting out sugar and bad carbs will lead to more stable blood glucose levels, which will encourage a healthier metabolism. If you focus just on fat, you're basically ignoring what's more important to weight control in the long run. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Pie
Excess sugar gets stored as fat. If you cut out carbs and sugar, your body will learn to use fat more readily as an energy source. And don't forget about the connection between blood glucose and metabolism. Cutting out sugar and bad carbs will lead to more stable blood glucose levels, which will encourage a healthier metabolism. If you focus just on fat, you're basically ignoring what's more important to weight control in the long run. |
Understandable, and its a good and valid point that you raise. But, if you're creaiting a calorie deficit in the first place by eliminating fatty foods, the sugars wont get stored as fats (since their calories will be used in your bodies activities.
the fact that fatty foods are calorie landminds should be indicative that avoiding them will help in weight loss. (my argument here is yes they are part of the big picture)
You don't give a fat person 1 tripple thick milkshake a day for their diet. It would be more usefull to give them 2 kilos of celery as to satiate them lol.
I hope my point is illustrated here with this harsh contrast. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Nobody is arguing that cutting out fat helps in weight loss. We're saying that making fats THE FOCUS of weight loss is inefficient and stupid. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Pie
Nobody is arguing that cutting out fat helps in weight loss. We're saying that making fats THE FOCUS of weight loss is inefficient and stupid. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
cutting out fats is the easiest way to create a caloric deficit
thus cutting out fats is important as you say AND THUS IT HAS TO BE an EFFICIENT focus of weight loss
if you reduce, out of three given components 1 which gives you more then double the input of the two others, i call that efficient.
this is simple math here 1+1 = 2 |
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