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Workout Thread IV (pg. 585)
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ziptnf
quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
to loose weight reduce calories, simple formula.
how do you reduce calories? eat less fatty foods is an easy option, that will help you reach a deficit.

thats it.

No, that's not it. Come on, this has been stated numerous times here that reducing calories isn't the only thing that makes you lose weight.
Nrg2Nfinit
creating a daily deficit definatley does unless your metabolism is ridiculously slow.


of course you want a balanced diet as well your body needs fats proteins and other nutrients. but thats the gist of the game


energy in has to go somewhere.. if it doesnt its stored as fat.
Nrg2Nfinit
and with that i say goodnight, i hope you all enjoyed your collective gang rape on me.
Vivid Boy
i missed it!


*jerks off and cums on nrg's calf on his way out*

FAT NIGGA!
Fledz
quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
cutting out fats is the easiest way to create a caloric deficit

thus cutting out fats is important as you say AND THUS IT HAS TO BE an EFFICIENT focus of weight loss


if you reduce, out of three given components 1 which gives you more then double the input of the two others, i call that efficient.


this is simple math here 1+1 = 2


No it is not and it's not simple maths because you don't eat all that much fat compared to carbs and proteins, probably even sugar and salt.

You CANNOT use a 1:1 ratio when discussing this for ing sake. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
It's like debating with a retarded wall.

Even ziptnf understands the concept of why to target something and how much, yet your whole argument is "herp derp fat fat fat herpy derp derp" :rolleyes:
DancingMonkey
quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
if you have high cholesterol, you should lower your cholesterol intake through foods especially those with high ldl. I know because i've gone through it and been told to by a General practitioner and a gastroenterologists.

It takes a significant amount of time to do so, but it helps rather then keeping the cholesterol intake the same



perhaps if you read my post about ldl cholesterol in eggs, maybe that answers the quesiton for you.

27% of the cholesterol in eggs is ldl cholesterol. If you consume a large amount of eggs, your ldl choleserol per day will increase and so will your cholesterol levels over time. This isnt rocket science here.


No, it's LDL science!
Nrg2Nfinit
everyone's diet is different, without a standard ratio in place your point is moot.

i layed out a 1 to 1 ratio to show the siginificant caloric difference between fats, carbs and proteins and used that as my thesis onto why fatty foods are calorie dense.

Now you're complicating the issue saying it all depends on how much of each you consume without giving a standard.

For alot of foods, you gain most of the calories from fats, if you reduce fatty food intake, you will have an easier time creating a caloric deficit. How is this so hard to comprehend?

Clearly civility is lost with you :p
tubularbills
been getting back into the groove of lifting again. feels good man:toocool:
ziptnf
quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Even ziptnf understands the concept of why to target something and how much, yet your whole argument is "herp derp fat fat fat herpy derp derp" :rolleyes:

Lol of course I understand it. I already lost plenty of weight by doing the right things (cutting fat/salt/sugar/cholesterol) and it paid off immensely. Focusing on fat alone is ing retarded.
MrJiveBoJingles
Not least because many people find low fat diets tasteless, making it much more likely they'll fail at sticking to them.

:p

Nrg2Nfinit
And with regards to cholesterol consumption with eggs, i would revert you to this study, it showed 20% more (TABLE 4) ldl cholesterol then hdl cholesterol where eggs contain very little fat.

There is a reason why there are dietary guidelines for cholesterol (i think 300 mg per day for the average person), and this is one of them.

http://www.ajcn.org/content/64/5/712.full.pdf+html

Adversely, you can see that the study showed that shrimp actually increased HDL cholesterol over ldl cholesterol, which means that shrimp may be beneficial to reducing overall ldl cholesterol.


So in essence, cholesterol intake can and does effect your body LDL cholesterol, even when saturated fats are not part of the equation.
Nrg2Nfinit
quote:
Originally posted by ziptnf
Focusing on fat alone is ing retarded.


Something that i haven't said at all in this thread and has been misconstrued and used against me.

All i said was, reducing fatty food intake is an efficient way to create a caloric deficit. 1,000,001th time now
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